From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 834ec7dc for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 02D4A93DB9; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:25:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B35493D2D; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:25:08 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=retrocomputingtasmania-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@retrocomputingtasmania-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="ctIXM1jM"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 781AB93D2D; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:25:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f179.google.com (mail-lj1-f179.google.com [209.85.208.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9499193D28 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:25:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id g80so1533180ljg.6 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 03:25:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=retrocomputingtasmania-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wrGvtNLDlu6ahez3AMienPP+tetkN+NN2wINJF2cCYA=; b=ctIXM1jMVmhHR3G0v8L+kryzH++S/UJrLkAMs1OMUiqxsN8zr5Zlg6tkiy3EIDNJuW UAxmGST7M419IDEIcwMMr75JYilemTZRLAfi7tfhqcIjsejQG14m2CC4AZ73facIx4Ew uO289sxyqqS4zlrh9hsCbPuZA02taPu9NAtTs8y2/1Vz+/2mwxOX5zpeUFSkwsCT+Z7A 43/QZrMHKabu2HEHeMzXAlYLmKVRT63DnK4h2M+oyde/ODUkosZ4O3/NwyB+S0qpMFL8 ZulM7Azql4TRJSYe3xcF68bLeBzGA6GP8EE1GDsfDirgLiDPmAhyAyWxJwTann5q+20j 7/kw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wrGvtNLDlu6ahez3AMienPP+tetkN+NN2wINJF2cCYA=; b=We5jSZJ/hXJPyA0BoAhe92n18hPzcwAubLaUjr/A0NXVGsHr86FEjFnvbfadtsKceJ shovL1e620j1dlVUEg2y3xegtYbYInqOMS2feIFA685ZimmsX24XmuxxWIy0ETHg7Yby RRVnPkbiSDitl5DHsx+gECZRf3mqQv04USJJ0brJ0ukJXJTYmHs7rZEA0+WJZ7QqgF1R EiUzUO+oKMsmr3H/wKHHnVy8UCQNUVnG8a/3P6JIOmYhsvEXDOPyJFnlT2yT6dkpREp9 sL+o+/C2q774hxuQLEdfWDTkoqrgo/D/TuMsA/4hFT8PLR3GxG1BrABfQoBKhjYDJgCA vHZA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWk00eHada8QoisoIqe9tClwlHKu7Vo0Qit8Apb6su6hiMMUDzk vG7lB2CSevsIa0vq60lUYXcCXQoxJCK9XF3WvrZEOXK26nk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzFCsUcKYR0mlixfgMhIgn5gdv6bWhK98rucsQcGgMmd1alq6k/H1+T9T4m3kVuTuHy04SQWIa8SNyOAKXB5EQ= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9a55:: with SMTP id k21mr13737569ljj.191.1552213503515; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 03:25:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201903100731.x2A7VZJF033832@ducky.net> In-Reply-To: <201903100731.x2A7VZJF033832@ducky.net> From: Nigel Williams Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:24:53 +1100 Message-ID: To: The Unix Heritage Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] a possible source for 4.1BSD tapes X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 6:52 PM Mike Haertel wrote: > Also, while poking around the net, I've found a number of purported > tape images of 4.1BSD dated 7/10/1981 that look to me to a little sketchy, > since most contain files dated well into 1982. Thanks Mike, you've raised an interesting question as to whether there is an original (untainted) 1981 4.1BSD release available? I see that the easily found distribution has modifications running into 1982. Berkeley 4.1 VAX/UNIX (Amnesia-Vax) login: root Last login: Sun Jan 21 18:57:55 on console Welcome to Berkeley Vax/UNIX (4.1bsd revised 1 Sept. 1981) Erase is delete Kill is control-U # ls -l / total 795 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 57 Mar 18 1981 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root 90 Mar 21 1981 .login -rw-r--r-- 1 root 99 Apr 30 1981 .profile drwxr-xr-x 2 root 32 Mar 15 1981 arch drwxrwxrwx 2 root 160 May 10 1982 bill ...elided... On this page: http://gunkies.org/wiki/4.1_BSD the file references http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/UCB_CSRG/4.1_BSD_19810710.zip and that has files from Feb-1982. The Trinity College appears to be cataloguing many interesting software artefacts. I would be interested in some of the other items they show on their web-page.