From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: wobblygong@gmail.com (Wesley Parish) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:53:10 +1300 Subject: [TUHS] Novell, not SCO, found to own "Unix" In-Reply-To: <20180331003430.GH9300@thunk.org> References: <20180331003430.GH9300@thunk.org> Message-ID: Also one of the bigger mistakes the anti-Linux groups made. Among other things it brought a whole lot of Unix history into the light. And that was a Good Thing (TM). I doubt IBM ever did anything more than send an occasional hint Pamela's way. She did not seem the sort to follow a boss's orders that way. I did start to worry she'd bought into the Google "Do no evil" hype at the end, but then she folded it up and stopped posting articles, so that's moot. (For what it's worth, I can give an example of her depth of experience in the software development process: I found in a relatively ancient MS Windows 3.1 CDROM archive a small Microsoft Windows text editor project, with a README stating it was in the public domain. It had obviously been released to help nervous software developers kickstart their own projects by offering a free windowing framework and text editing source code. I email her and told her about it, and she replied it would not be a good idea to let Microsoft know about it or they would lock it up again. She was a legal assistant, and understood well tracking cases through the courts, not the software development process.) Wesley Parish On 3/31/18, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 07:22:57PM -0400, Nemo wrote: >> > As an aside, this was the first and only time that I was on IBM's side, >> > and I still wonder whether M$ was bankrolling SCO in an effort to wipe >> > Linux off the map; what sort of an idiot would take on IBM? >> >> Methinks a mention of the wonderful record at Groklaw >> (http://www.groklaw.net) is in order. > > The idiots were at SCO. In terms of Microsoft, if that theory is > true, it makes sense if you think in a fairly amoral way ("fiduciary > responsibility to shareholders excuses all business tactics" aka the > sociopathic theory of corporations) and consider it a fairly cheap PR > campaign to spread FUD about Linux. So it you could actually consider > it a fairly cunning tactics; it was probably cheaper than, say, the > national TV advertising spots IBM had been running to support Linux. > > Of course, whether SCO was actually colluding with Microsoft, or just > a "useful idiot" that was manipulated into taking on IBM, who knows? > And short of having a special prosecutor look into it, I doubt we'll > ever know for sure. > > Speaking of PR exercises, there were rumors that Pamela at Groklaw was > secretly being funded by IBM as a counter PR campaign. Even as an IBM > employee, I never saw any hard evidence of this, and everything Pamela > posted was backed by hard legal analysis and the actual court filings, > but I know people who were quite familiar with the players (including > those who knew, or at least claimed, that Pamela lived in Westchester > County in upstate NY) who were quite certain of this theory. > Certainly if it were not true, the person or people running Groklaw > must have donated huge amounts of their free time to keep the site > running and post the very rich amount of content available at Groklaw. > > - Ted >