From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 333138a5 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 09:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E15929C0A3; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:32:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215B09C077; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:32:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="u63z4N0K"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 05F849C077; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:32:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f43.google.com (mail-ot1-f43.google.com [209.85.210.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95DAB9C00B for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:32:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id p23so6362080oto.0 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:32:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lnz7xledoV7NHQnHl8Dcs738UUKJddKP8I+x8WnBNjE=; b=u63z4N0Kxj+/84bqTJXrjyy6eW/FQiqPEtd0Lh7hjE/jUuJFaeNhe32N/4CnOBXSBL pOFqLBblbikwaXRgTnI6/1a8miW2Y1BEVLckj3QbhJPIPCKIBUXl4cz7DamE1Ek5Gf8U KZ2qLI7uRKg9/nhAE5R8HBJUddgIeeo7NHSLYj702xYM8dpduid9uRW/uwXWF/vINyo2 aJsrZuZy6+SXNxBtQM8S+zyUX+SpuBUM4raKefrghRQf+V8eAOC9ANr60xQFCVgQm99V m7zJHwrvFVU9z+xm5KOxl+NvMS/43DixEXVvcPUgdNr6VwzfJd/LqLAvLtzSy7Mj4Aq9 EPmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lnz7xledoV7NHQnHl8Dcs738UUKJddKP8I+x8WnBNjE=; b=oVxwtuGofKcKX2h8iRu/fC7V7zfHozfVsO+SnlTPNe2MPa53J64PLk/1IXhq/9ARm+ prxMAYawglRzSEHZulFL55Q8BUGDf8X51gF0u7KfoltyfgdmIRnOGziN/jUn/JKvgPx1 s6Vgwgibz7GkTOMoacd2DvlgwKTJlyOCxDLX33q9Lff/KqDwSS0JdrhUEqtoU9r4Biif F5pmwMKgNsVFHVAATvQCPO7c01a6Y3/ikNXZPmGQ5wQMWC+yuzPG9WVXziFsV0599u8l 3BIDO5plRdGbUnFRCzDlwljN7nz8QVsVtiJyxwMCsfUMylUxxl0iLjqgvM71MV9ChGPS Wh8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW2tSvgp20EyD5+A44FODIm/P6ZosYxnCNxv1gIEYteG4NxxLXm cl5t481ZV3PdcD7rlkvFKcwWp1CqwbPtYMjZ1bI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwTNcoVk+O/jFw9dhFZ8yQxTA7+Rl3KLhHwaVOfSQCiJL8vY6aaOsXDyIPqhAOVXPQAPAalnQI6Mxm9TQBDPVY= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7308:: with SMTP id e8mr12037381otk.285.1567157541918; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:32:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4a:2fd5:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:32:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1d3d8c9a-7006-4666-b32e-8fa4fc5e9f7c@PU1APC01FT039.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> References: <20190828172451.GX13570@mcvoy.com> <20190828181727.GA82704@wopr> <1d3d8c9a-7006-4666-b32e-8fa4fc5e9f7c@PU1APC01FT039.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> From: Wesley Parish Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 21:32:21 +1200 Message-ID: To: Jason Stevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] ISO, OSI, and DECnet (was Re: If not Linux, then what?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Well, fwiw, the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network (ATN) that was being discussed in the late nineties and early noughties, was supposed to be built on the OSI stack. I have no idea what happened with that, whether it went ahead or got altered. On 8/30/19, Jason Stevens wrote: > Although I never have seen OSI in the wild, it was the one great thing ab= out > =E2=80=98Winsock=E2=80=99 is that it worked over TCP/IP , IPX/SPX, Applet= Talk and Decnet. > It was fun to convert a BBS from being telnet to some =E2=80=98telnet ove= r decnet=E2=80=99 > monster I built. > > Although I=E2=80=99m guessing OSI would have allowed for common =E2=80=98= network=E2=80=99 > applications to use different network topologies? > > I really need to get OSF/1 2.0 installed.