From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bfc5aef9 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 502EC9BBFE; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:56:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D409B8C4; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:55:48 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Zd/8qxWY"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E7DE39B626; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:55:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com (mail-ot1-f51.google.com [209.85.210.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B817E946B9; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:55:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id k32so9986505otc.4; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:55:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=F8VpNfClKmGAP3fcwOUVkaW9vTpsRH3B2jbMYGrn9BA=; b=Zd/8qxWYSZpd89K8+xAqxWz9fIu4AWa+8Z4qm/7MO/9Ih1TAnTEHFZ2Xd1I9y6XJ87 3dao4diOD+Ri6sOq2Z/1y7u9ZUAhTr4fYx1/7/0jcdNhprPtPm/MI7BeHjzB4DWgzdpk CuQ7m0Z5LpNZolx186Y724s/06zd77iBxyH0RmOefTM0KjRBj1RY43BwhPtv4l+miPI+ zPpQ4FwjrUxEzWmodr4b0xPWCWfw8lP744kvLRuEjDoExMdl1kCrfpzv/Yy7+unFkR9y dSCaw05+HWznUTxo4x4R4Z7CMHTqHTK8mZ2yaZQP8PYmXrN65ANLbMYNH3zzXjswFUvL /tLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=F8VpNfClKmGAP3fcwOUVkaW9vTpsRH3B2jbMYGrn9BA=; b=lGUAnR0OerUSlPE9I2LlBQkwNaNapAJMSdE443a+RJZj5ZfhvoCfBK6Q2zk1b3rChq 46GoFrMm/MXJfC6XyPkCEtBKTRFHzjsbXXtWUqjs3i4e2/5Q7onuuknnuuS8b3wp8RYl CIICNGlgLBq1wvYb6tC1p+QYpbs7rPC718v4a4zx/9GnzthO+HCMoD1q5tGtSFi1O/2n 8xd1y3XqirQeGfuarjBUsr4AO6fIITz6vQlaTgPiZPVIJ/ub2zV1HBl6corkODTHTeSD K5/oNPgw7BQgpIZwv1rdSUhoQcbOkTaS/QROtCzFkXXxLEPRnw6GHo4Q9yYBuzLQTny3 BvPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWpVj8EpyydhPdxteaoMO2/H3fRCnW/+LuKCdWpWQWtaWsgIDoa DDNL7c/c3s0moeAJ4HxoGz4iC8qYEbtf4exbJyIznA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwf4tomt0w6TTEvey5Vy09v5Mf6UKbcSwHRkEik17S17Q3KYcqhxgPHV1MnaRX+QBtBUkvO+4lPkFGL6c8TWIA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:20cf:: with SMTP id z15mr16607967otq.285.1570870543714; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:55:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4a:8341:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:55:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Wesley Parish Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:55:42 +1300 Message-ID: To: Warren Toomey Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I don't really think I had an "Aha" moment as such. More a set of them, after discovering computers again after failing to understand them at high school - I blame Apple BASIC for that. I think it was discovering two articles on Minix (also discussing the Minix book) and Coherent in a local computer magazine, and of course that Unix came with source was mentioned. So I bought the Minix book, then when I could, I did a Unix course at the local polytech (SCO of some description c. early 90s) and got the SLS Linux that now resides in the Bochs area at Sourceforge. It wasn't instantaneous, but more of a build-up - this stuff is powerful and just works. Even better, you can read the source files and get to understand everything about it - so you're not in a "cargo cult" attitude to operating systems and applications: everything is in your hands and you can go in as deeply as you wish. You just have to be willing to work at learning it. My 0.02c worth - don't spend it all at once!!! :) Wesley Parish On 10/11/19, Warren Toomey wrote: > All, we had another dozen TUHS suscribers to the list overnight. Welcome. > A reminder that we're here to discuss Unix Heritage, so I'll nudge you > if the conversation goes a bit off-topic. > > So I'll kick off another thread. What was your "ahah" moment when you > first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you'd > previously used? > > Mine was: Oh, I can: > + write a simple script > + to edit a file on the fly > + with no temporary files (a la pipes) > + AND I can change the file suffix and the system won't stop me! > > I was using TOPS-20 beforehand. > > Cheers, Warren >