From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBBB23F8F for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 01:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17367436A1; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:04:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C0C043695 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:04:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-421d32fda86so4307645e9.0 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rikfarrow-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1718838243; x=1719443043; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QtDhanDLJG7uVXwxbaQv7sa+ur3f/FZ3vnp5+yl9rw4=; b=Rb7U95+slyjHGa9c4kGMSjxvvVFtXCFZv65FfoHZWO1EZI7ukyukUGSFKOcC6qqaMP vbTnlc8YoMhqYaPOEJ7kx2dozSqENaxsp2uzKI7BLsc0wKPy/clpbZklOm0DyZ60+ZBO DXDRqYUMLcZzWsF8eV+yXogwRspTIROkzm/biBqoCUcXBlOyBkSotFh0jpNbzPlzVf1T 8HDV4CtFc6d3DclqkOj6bAnv8SUXJP6KMzFiNvQ0ujXdEuvfo5VKw/6QRGmT6DEH350M CLizq7iIwCjtvJF6W/g3GGvCs7cxIg0tNtglduhLaXdkqzu1GIoIOleRhig6R2XD354s Qz+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1718838243; x=1719443043; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=QtDhanDLJG7uVXwxbaQv7sa+ur3f/FZ3vnp5+yl9rw4=; b=sNmyl4hwsNJTKoT8l74T1hhOZeGZ+TxsddxKYm6uL5eYDXhQedKZaymgeUrsclwF7S 4rYnr3ml9g4PGuz8SREq6b/WCaFv8OaVeuNbS8mn64I0GU5BIsy9BoiIg7ozp5sP9D6I 5qTQgPdeTfefMODnGwuVXAfHtUzsfIkRfZrI2aIHBO/uu7POX8lAFaBmd4Kxo0FpTcrj T3jogUxqkWPdpGNFSSZHxT3EW+Di7Nv6+/eMQ71X2qLsCPoebsPt7jeCoLGv2D7ZoYma X7XDNtraB+ImVjbKOftByamCs7I2WHd8wn3oWdk8pdz5ZjSjrSoQRP1rcAZ7WhfE/I0x 2XgA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXsAMf9ZhdFGADNXXvWqDBKtiJaxrz/oIdOTCjYd8wbBL3bIXoQIT1EwwDwJabFKj229u+meSbbFOEeVo5s X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzxQVW+DYrFBAckfcSq7RAuQWHS5XGy1uhhCGr1ModOFCSOlVdK 1rB0zMpl7KtSrMQSa3tuSMErvvLlmo7lp+0kgB7kQOd30DNIidZSZVQy/2oPSfnXpQ6yudhUA7N rLUBsHWkWHDCTipvuax3gRuTAqWNnGVtGK6Vkg4hHgEI5EDI7 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEtu6XPAI89wEkB7rsQzwBQZ+IBaaK+lakN7D8P+xU+2T0sYylZUq9FEsdcAO/DgUICBmJ3bv8UQh2cJWpghT4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3ba5:b0:422:fa63:33c1 with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-42475079291mr34357875e9.3.1718838242709; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:04:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <58cc45a9-d1b0-9dba-c3c0-a2970c4d7b3d@bitsavers.org> <477b0ad9-1dc0-11bc-bab0-5a0fb3134639@bitsavers.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rik Farrow Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:03:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: Kevin Bowling Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e22a99061b46367c" Message-ID-Hash: W3GU2JISUNTD3QEBU5BQS6MKRT46GIQT X-Message-ID-Hash: W3GU2JISUNTD3QEBU5BQS6MKRT46GIQT X-MailFrom: rik@rikfarrow.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Al Kossow , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: Anyone have Plexus docs/software squirreled away? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e22a99061b46367c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 3:58=E2=80=AFPM Kevin Bowling wrote: > > > I=E2=80=99m weak in my DEC history and collection but I=E2=80=99ve heard = some in person > stories that VMS source was not impossible to find on microfiche at certa= in > institutions. They might have had at least board level schematics too. > That situation would be roughly equivalent to IBM mainframes through the > 1980s but you=E2=80=99d still be missing a lot of microcode and logic equ= ations to > zoom in at any level for these two examples. > > Someone who had previously worked at Lawrence Livermore Labs offered me the VMS source on microfiche, sometime around 1990. I turned him down... Rik --000000000000e22a99061b46367c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 3:58=E2=80=AF= PM Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowl= ing@kev009.com> wrote:


I=E2=80=99m weak in my DEC history and coll= ection but I=E2=80=99ve heard some in person stories that VMS source was no= t impossible to find on microfiche at certain institutions.=C2=A0 They migh= t have had at least board level schematics too.=C2=A0 That situation would = be roughly equivalent to IBM mainframes through the 1980s but you=E2=80=99d= still be missing a lot of microcode and logic equations to zoom in at any = level for these two examples.

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Someone who had previously worked at Lawrence Livermore L= abs offered me the VMS source on microfiche, sometime around 1990. I turned= him down...=C2=A0

Rik

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