From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 53ea45ec for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 22:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ED12A9CC1F; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:22:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A769CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:22:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="F0ypDO0C"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A215D9CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:22:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f54.google.com (mail-ot1-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F5F19CB86 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:22:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f54.google.com with SMTP id i6so3567667otr.7 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 14:22:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u6NRinD18A35ECevFv1y/tWb7+F7HQ3JhoII/79So1s=; b=F0ypDO0CimHaeSqx/k8EPh6tRHHFe8VdQrYpRQFzRKXGFX6mts65LL1613Ruc2r7wW G3l3VaSSmZKfGGC7DmvEkLetR082q6YHmziZ+FtRpR6s3Zho136LhD47U7OhLoTkNP7Y e2ZEyA/dvv4pllliwFvMT4W7qBC9NatngYIJ6tBnUV4tiHvH3jyDIjlvEFOl7I4Pv5WP EhKLKZgYNTSE1QtgtRsLlZwO0IdVcjbp4cWAW+N8MHBLXjedm/JHvcFh3hFFuukhzl8j iNOXRBQGooYgkljDRRPrLj1892vCSJjJ4AhjQwUNWB7vQ5h+6fOYUgTfakOSZQVs250l zLOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u6NRinD18A35ECevFv1y/tWb7+F7HQ3JhoII/79So1s=; b=OyB9EN8MtTejGg+tv8mwHN6whiYTpx58gKXNMVrrVu7BuyrE1hMrh1fRQxEiMKhjSI /iL0UeekHCd7+VGHIAZ7O8V6K/yKZgvo6HWlP/TsEQE8gmwo5QoGZHLpQGKuUzlT+a6J o5wXqGeAQG/NKqJQ4/tco4pVk+oiakNp41qDMJ2P93FgbEA7omJpO9OYeM5nK7HsXC8+ yljhs2R6VHj4SR3VkcN/Z1IqR1JJMrWYbUWSwu6BdRIPFSY//DGyEZE9QP9iU6wRzqQd +dKWMUAZdvWTbx2E+G+iipgNhdkFBICs+dyHzubKnGeQLw58u/Y9HjcMyqBy/M0QT04W Wrpg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV9WnABMva9xnONpJDMKzFPC5HRd5NT06TKmIk0UuB5OMWrOyuw XjRlw3sRgaGJU3xdwHxfJHQdA2Zh8ZDH/hhMpXQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxGP+k+jJeE5fvQGXA9U69jACH2aupUOymOKKDWuurfGK51PbsgvkHcyG4wHGzFM524C4x2H7mls5lHTDk57rs= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4801:: with SMTP id c1mr28778488otf.258.1580941353247; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 14:22:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6838:6db:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 14:22:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> <1ippPk-8PE-00@marmaro.de> <1iqMuL-1zK-00@marmaro.de> <20200204094018.661e76717f7f475e6cb53e75@sjmulder.nl> <20200204201453.ebeaabon26vbgfle@localhost.localdomain> <202002050845.0158jDOu024559@freefriends.org> From: Ed Carp Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:22:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wZhv8Tx2xO1UWOJHU2o5R7k8nh0 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas (was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Sex the UNIX way # unzip # strip # touch # finger # mount # fsck # more # yes # umount # sleep On 2/5/20, Rob Pike wrote: > Frodo (Ted Kowalski) told me it was originally spelled, and pronounced, > fuck, for good reason, but he soon realized it was going to be used by > others and changed one letter. It was just letters after that. > > -rob > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:34 AM Clem cole wrote: > >> FWIW. When it was written, Ted and I used pronounced it as =E2=80=9Cfisk= =E2=80=9D (rhymes >> with =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D), but F. S. C. K. was always acceptable to m= y ears. I admit >> I >> smiled one time when I heard some one call it =E2=80=9Cf-sick=E2=80=9D b= ut that was not >> considered the proper pronunciation. >> >> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not >> quite. >> >> > On Feb 5, 2020, at 3:45 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >> > >> > "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: >> > >> >> At 2020-02-04T09:40:18+0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: >> >>> markus schnalke wrote: >> >>>> Wikipedia writes that `ed' would be pronounced ``ee-dee'' (like >> >>>> ``vee-eye''), is that what you english speakers do? >> >> >> >> Certainly not. When one sees a command name that duplicates a >> >> frequently-used diminituve of a common name, the brain is going to >> >> select that preferentially. >> > >> > ISTR thinking of it and calling it e-d, along with r-m, l-n, m-v and >> > the other two-letter commands. >> > >> >> (And did people really say "dee-eye-tee-roff" for "ditroff"?) >> > >> > I did ... Although it's "groff" and not "g-roff". :-) >> > >> > FWIW, >> > >> > Arnold >> >