From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a95be0c8 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3DA23A1A7E; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:18:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3313A1A23; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:17:54 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=DMUucbqF; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 59BB4A1A25; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:17:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f44.google.com (mail-ua1-f44.google.com [209.85.222.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34664A1A23 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:17:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f44.google.com with SMTP id c12-v6so4815856uan.3 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:17:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=AhR1fAKFe/ygEZXiKveZ9FyzWWEwhOd5uw0/sbIIBVk=; b=DMUucbqFUOQZe8qDAlxlBMiLyTUCpsItMRNrREAUqYn7T3oQjqole235cPeP1HWbOE Y1nAaVtiZcgRzBANE2UK3faHxkJHWQOsUTTSDfnKSDeqTPNuqGKQlkRQY+CXkvSWEcMy mVJIeILfCqbnl9F/OBIAOaMMCNWUPkSLB6vgT+AkJuwSq8amniZ08BeZE++fZ7jLMeVy MgDpimI7bCwtW5ELRJzQ3C1Psjp4ZfXD0qP/RUXlsfCc2jqfWPrmXcmuL8AP0wJwpg52 Rx70gpG36v1+bAxH/iMr3UEDAuW2I20lMsxVLhu+aHUo/I1w+2Yco1fPGwLtKQ0ruboc XZDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AhR1fAKFe/ygEZXiKveZ9FyzWWEwhOd5uw0/sbIIBVk=; b=AqpMy72vmI3kqeiNUvijCCwZ7DCQigHYCFnIzPWPAJYKxfxVPZH7b7RTPRZtYkMXyY Nu7s8q29t/MFiW2tcrUAcXQPWTKbJNNbE7UM3MLgPBmc5QYrj8+iRi4zDrhWuPZpCp/P jfLE5leiGeXEVpS0Ep+ZlyzkYhAPOQAhsJo2Zj9fvtPRRotkLaRdcwSOk9cGMp+aLc+O c4pJpECjhC2OlXCfuFMXeNCfEslvwTWSfIjMhUPP687fpWb3yRE0fBPflB9pxjBsv9lG 6xZEqVwhH6jPC3sEPBVdiIBQDwMKYQKAShBDXds66Xr+AMjWpZuRIHiw88nRPdfljxm+ nMlg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CLh4Io21C9hDnEBcibUFfVbOA5QIAneeG8hdFq/2VLeL2xpWFM M2rxlTE9FlMMy4LCAPddwf5S4Qb4nkZecL21df07HA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYvGh2kg8uUu/vEBh/pJ3MU8FDROpQNMx1SYv389SS6hzgnzRtNs5J3uW740rmgkKmCgNM9axYpkzvgrF1r5tE= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:624e:: with SMTP id p14-v6mr19704177uao.69.1536124668142; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:17:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a67:6ec3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 22:17:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1535565898.3905695.1490376112.4B7D3E18@webmail.messagingengine.com> <6e7783fb-ff06-2e21-002f-76bef263b63c@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <6e3a87ce-f573-4258-9db5-a5f99b5b89b1.maildroid@localhost> <20180829202111.GA17007@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Ed Carp Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 22:17:47 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SqT4zAiCb5U2MApeW459jPMswC8 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] =?utf-8?b?UmV0cm9OZXTigKY=?= X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I just put the TNC into transparent mode and let the Linux boxes talk to each other via UUCP. I guess I could've used KISS, but it was a quick-and-dirty hack so I could read email from my laptop in bed :) On 9/3/18, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Ed Carp wrote: > >> Wow, that takes me back quite a ways. I think I've still got my UUCP >> setup somewhere on a backup. UUCP works great over anything from ssh >> over tcpip to 1200 baud half-duplex packet connections. > > If you're referring to "Amateur" i.e. "ham radio" packet radio than yes, > I'm told that it works great i.e. half-duplex -> large data -> short ACK. > >> Fond memories. > > Heh heh - I once ran *raw* Xmodem over packet i.e. not encapsulated in > that protocol-from-hell AX.25 i.e. technically illegal[*]; it worked great > until a packet was lost (the "hidden transmitter" problem) and the various > timeouts concerned (Xmodem vs. the TNCs themselves) went completely > pear-shaped... > > [*] > > Stuff the legality; isn't Amateur radio all about experimentation? But we > did announce on that frequency that we were about to conduct an > experiment. And whoever designed AX.25 (yes, I have studied it in great > detail) must've been on something at the time... Protocol layers? > What's that? > > -- Dave (VK2KFU) >