I actually like ed and sam. I find it "soothing" to be able to manipulate text almost "programmatically".... As an undergrad at USyd EE Dept, the VT100s in the computer lab were often all taken, but there were a few LA30s still hooked up and no-one wanted to use them. I learned how to optimally enter, compile and debug code through a paper interface. It was VMS of course at EE, but when I started using the Unix systems at CS a year later, the 11/750 was so heavily loaded that "ed" was the best choice for getting assignments done quickly. Line editors were also much more pleasant to use over slow modem connections. I had a 28.8k modem but the dialup pool rarely got you a high speed connection... But back to the original topic... Has the MHSnet code made it into the public domain? Michael On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:52 PM wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 10:14 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020, Adam Thornton wrote: > > > > > > > Since I find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor > was > > > > a must for me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role > > > > rather nicely. > > > > > > A boss of mine insisted that we all learned "ed", because one day it > might > > > be the only editor available to you after a crash; he was right... > > > > > > > I should do that... So far I've managed to get by with sed :) > > > > Warner > > > > > > > If you know the ex subset of vi, you know most of what you need to > know to use ed ... > > Arnold > -- Michael Usher Senior Wireless Network Engineer University of California, Santa Cruz musher@ucsc.edu 831-459-3697