From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684E826A41 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6102D427B8; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:32:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9212C42704 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:32:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec52fbb50cso48890591fa.2 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=helicontech-co-il.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1719426771; x=1720031571; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LVhmhPngYEKjAz9viXvBpf/0rBBr8PHwdC5CcFK8Avk=; b=SCYDRUQRsos8SfkrWcVhAQTAHHvAej91WpM0s50r7C4WhhJv6ghncdMeCr+fNOZG4v NZ6W04+3xhOt9kfwAcCxBTZK9//3IkwNta5IZezbg+TRj84Q9PtALn6ABWTZYhEW64/Y 7WsaEW0eIwQU1RQFk0tLrMikIf5g5T9w6oyjdWomevcsfX7JLl1qaKr9tIo4JNGzAA0O 4mr46BvVREW7KrMsukm5p5wjEMp/DLhCNzlYYfmMExGU5soIy9WbHzirpO7dMX+52BK5 UYjRZpaU2tp6r4cuEXffQpjVkr6viWrDrNEawOWxRi6rd5FEg8NJ4haMkxlCyAZovrZt HppQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719426771; x=1720031571; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=LVhmhPngYEKjAz9viXvBpf/0rBBr8PHwdC5CcFK8Avk=; b=bVpyg8xRr2lsWDznLHrYrHfolHpefYg03qtUn+hHtFb6uVfqhI0yRdx76juNI7gpBA JsOyNQ+o33Y+3snRQSAa/dfnE0y+ApMm6wzlmRAnoO1/LHu+KQsMY32l6Ifv55aXYBvr dZJ8Vdli91H/NZORxqR+xctq4Gh8sYa7kUU44ClioiRR8TiKkeN6uGtxm7QLZtsWe7HE T9p6lgliXTT6H0/myHaJxX97ky4srzqcYXRUtnpx6uCAHuSlVIe8IntDR50J6c16NT0w alMqLrO+50UhoK7uuyiqqYLgRNi2HOZnGqzzeLb8eCwAZbcv3CtvbUUlpLdBlbyWt2Ds oNKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwbpAg4WE8uuraCnZkc9T4S3/KbbAjZ8mQh1klkYkoHEISQyf/t X3iWNz0LC93CRuW08ukW+3482KyN5QtoNolnJRL1DVIO9zc0J77y8Z+rkPX0uF/hmIA6iTrc6TR YoPRTqW46+unJr/T8OZsFpRDg0KVleIhhFaEF X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGnzEZMvpGKFro1vIqoz3ZaVuPZ0xUsAUH6J/HNsKu+JNTjWZ/UUZyc7NoC5VLFZ//fg2kXZCbsiDI4JoKPbCM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9596:0:b0:2ec:402a:d2aa with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec5b2a09f0mr66855081fa.18.1719426771317; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ori Idan Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 21:32:15 +0300 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ec0ecb061bcf3dd5" Message-ID-Hash: 5MCDUAUZF67LMLXAW7JTMOMWSOKYLBYA X-Message-ID-Hash: 5MCDUAUZF67LMLXAW7JTMOMWSOKYLBYA X-MailFrom: ori@helicontech.co.il X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ec0ecb061bcf3dd5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As far as I know IEEE is not really a standard, it is a recommendation, while ANSI is a standard. ANSI is the American standard and ISO is International. --=20 Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books http://www.heliconbooks.com On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:56=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > Good morning, I was wondering if anyone has the scoop on the rationale > behind the selection of standards bodies for the publication of UNIX and > UNIX-adjacent standards. C was published via the ANSI route as X3.159, > whereas POSIX was instead published by the IEEE route as 1003.1. Was the= re > every any consideration of C through IEEE or POSIX through ANSI instead? > Is there an appreciable difference suggested by the difference in > publishers? In any case, both saw subsequent adoption by ISO/IEC, so the > track to an international standard seems to lead to the same organization= s. > > - Matt G. > --000000000000ec0ecb061bcf3dd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As far as I know IEEE is not really a standard, it is= a recommendation, while ANSI is a standard. ANSI is the American standard = and ISO is International.

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On W= ed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:56=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
Good morning, I was wondering if anyone has th= e scoop on the rationale behind the selection of standards bodies for the p= ublication of UNIX and UNIX-adjacent standards.=C2=A0 C was published via t= he ANSI route as X3.159, whereas POSIX was instead published by the IEEE ro= ute as 1003.1.=C2=A0 Was there every any consideration of C through IEEE or= POSIX through ANSI instead?=C2=A0 Is there an appreciable difference sugge= sted by the difference in publishers?=C2=A0 In any case, both saw subsequen= t adoption by ISO/IEC, so the track to an international standard seems to l= ead to the same organizations.

- Matt G.
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