From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D480E26A2C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC1442A9B; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:43:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com (mail-ej1-x630.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::630]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FF0242A80 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:43:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a63359aaaa6so906077966b.2 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 22:43:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1718171005; x=1718775805; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=kRD4xcbA1qzJjMF1W0SxjCWmG9yh8RQo3EhTIo9A8fo=; b=T1/CkBTUn+w1830DDijrjSfPt61oSXdj53hJgzehTMS8JgQR1b1a3a2C0Crk81w6rT 5tZPUL2L05XSMiM8efmqKWA+RrYioT4wz8Ca7ysgmrhY0vzkSrv4l43q402vrG28buUD dBHUKZaoSI2/NjczOhmCjKWfqLwfaJWRDlqsosDDL+WTrxofCGVor72rWjRPh3uujy/s NOtlyOC38YGd7zstuBVWJrMi/JE/+Eq/hbSwy1elZ2wYZtVq3KD92djUGnxjfHji+08J PlkqlJHU59rR+Snf5e0pUZkL5b54bMkksL06ndl/85cBB5piB1qhaAbGhp2D+7RcqQo2 869g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1718171005; x=1718775805; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=kRD4xcbA1qzJjMF1W0SxjCWmG9yh8RQo3EhTIo9A8fo=; b=AfV4Wvk88vActG/adzeorIqBoMgy5QOdksgJSqK4ldkVDZOyrRj0ol6P0O2dQ/Uv8H V0/WB0tasfngq738TZIkoy9LhX1hDj82kEd7FuENMxIZMcTIEFtcR01bsHFKnUXuErVB 2de55DAbSzGiH68bv4BgW9zoQ9VZhQ6ZUCUVKWQm6ffp0D7z0cHKNSzPzANzUEC2f1P7 uHV9UKkfn634m/iCM9fZFAfK1NRgtRCSqCa2SR7/mWibbYFvIQvmJhJqQd/z52NPdN+c XgOA6wTb3GIR9rAJKjbujp4HASiHcNCeJyCs4s/sGifFoSdvx5xXyBNCznvWrkJIYq5I Lr+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwUqne/pPLotZn0R8ZGQ2vWdLHgvvqrxf6Xl/IAgD2x3jPCaUqZ 72OziCibzkwqSZV/98BvYNl59SA7IqgKfAhQWOWv3QVNL9xKms+lyVvmQcf3PsQik8KBzIzMm83 AoakaOutgDs/+FkTNwHDL5fC2IqgBeg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE3HoEZPyjqI5jsTvben+HZlI3I51nLKAZG8JPWNqoMJpTxbJvkvhkBVFyMqFW9nB5t2m0p1NIHSrY0MPW8al8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:980a:b0:a6f:4b7a:91f with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a6f4b7a09bemr11855166b.17.1718171005434; Tue, 11 Jun 2024 22:43:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Andrew Warkentin Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:43:13 -0600 Message-ID: To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 5HYG7X4NXLN4KHGW4M5JWH4RHLJQ423D X-Message-ID-Hash: 5HYG7X4NXLN4KHGW4M5JWH4RHLJQ423D X-MailFrom: andreww591@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: 5ESS UNIX RTR Reference Manual - Issue 10 (2001) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:41=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > > What would you suggest? My main point of reference is years and years of= being in the console video game scene, bin/cue is the most accessible of t= he high fidelity formats I've seen for things, compared with say cdi and md= f/mds. Does a plain old iso suffice for all relevant data from the media? = Frankly I've never done dumps on a UNIXy computer with an optical drive, o= nly Windows boxen, so can't say I'm hip to the sort of disc image you get d= oing a dd from an optical /dev entry, maybe I just need to get a UNIX of so= me kind on my old beater game machine with an optical drive to do these dum= ps going forward. > The vast majority of non-game software was distributed on discs that were formatted with a single data track and no special formatting. These can be safely imaged in flat (ISO) format. The main reason to use the lower-level formats is for discs with disc-based copy protection or multiple tracks (usually one data track and multiple audio tracks), both of which are very uncommon for non-game software. BeOS install CDs are the one exception I can think of; these have an ISO-format boot track followed by one or two BFS-format system tracks (separate system tracks are used for x86 and PPC), although even these aren't actually dependent on multiple tracks and can be run from a CD with just the system track if a boot floppy is used. Most dumping programs should be able to show you how the discs are formatted; if they only have a single track each, ISO format should be sufficient.