From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 1cbbb54a for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 06:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8C1609C11C; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 16:15:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B69B9BDD8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 16:15:17 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="hZi/Fah7"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 09CA39BDD8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 16:15:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io1-f43.google.com (mail-io1-f43.google.com [209.85.166.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77CED9BD25 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 16:15:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io1-f43.google.com with SMTP id n21so28344413ioo.10 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:15:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ud7x6rYwUF6Pwm1mUYv1rCmwS4V5S3U/nNi9tEcyDLQ=; b=hZi/Fah76vM6V5tRvFFjUJDF4p3JXsiMaUaYh4HmWGUEifNUFbXV4tUnEzPNx3RD8r WfLA424i+WFrPfgAjUA/c5dlhEgYTql2mXh/aiFGI7E6SsLU/Qjxk6F3TsUcGxRmJMrl pSO4RR86OSi35ju7v0euXrEhqkKBh8kOy6NH/UJuXUkgoeEgJnWLwLDwxhWxq+2q8Whk f5XpgpfN8cZwAsL/1arrC1ygKD6mRwC8DTizvGr1zL0iMadRHY5cZ8WqoHjSLoZ2qKxg 9EqA6ZpeUT9saVhXXz0Knyu5FCMsvt/+XfNEk75KudC0Kp90QHTmM3wZSP+mEkhhAmZY fKyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ud7x6rYwUF6Pwm1mUYv1rCmwS4V5S3U/nNi9tEcyDLQ=; b=WKGs6Zl+YgchvXGxSbEmDzH2R6+kWLuxu1DvI4U82ED5cz6wMSlB4eHQlpzJKX01v/ LtuATJOj7nCZ7CitIJ8fqpDfpZ3yzSnJ9nfTM4T19FdYU8R4WOgu7GazTHOAxYK7NZOy Qc+m9kRsnCLV0esRli62XfuhkCFV9nBe0f46LSzIoZA4OoEkefVmwbJoZhr3zCm4uruj l+mNzNUBapJ53CdCZOmJ4K6n3oumHmnYjJYgaN0Rw0o19dbKfXO/mPROC/bmHFtocqbK Uu2PMGqpzqtOsDYoWaC5AFF1tIhDT+ZNyTEOwOx11RT8HR1caLsbZiGjRHdM/7TsRhUo xKrA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVgjGuPWz5sQe+qLVeR7SpcW7p3Dnrk4ExE4fDa0CbJi01GkewT Y7nbAJd3rhj6buH75xrHvtboWuu/iQYp9fFMQqrtvQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyVAg8L9yMt11F5u9nchjA7CDQ15AZuDN6dTs0SA53lhicnQEbaoscCrWbftDU3Ff0s4AqTzJw09HExKQDWbtA= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:8f0c:: with SMTP id r12mr35370165iod.233.1579328112239; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:15:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac0:f201:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Warkentin Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 23:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Historic Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Distributed systems, was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question" X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/17/20, Brantley Coile wrote: > what he said. > >> On Jan 17, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Rob Pike wrote: >> >> Plan 9 is not a "single-system-image cluster". >> >> -rob >> > > I guess SSI isn't the right term for Plan 9 clustering since not everything is shared, although I would still say it has some aspects of SSI. I was talking about systems that try to make a cluster look like a single machine in some way even if they don't share everything (I'm not sure if there's a better term for such systems besides the rather vague "distributed" which could mean anything from full SSI to systems that allow transparent access to services/devices on other machines without trying to make a cluster look like a single system).