From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27265 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2020 05:16:31 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jun 2020 05:16:31 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3CCF69CA9A; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:16:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620FB9C606; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:15:48 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ue7cbfud"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C00289C606; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:15:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f178.google.com (mail-il1-f178.google.com [209.85.166.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5272993D52 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:15:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f178.google.com with SMTP id p5so13657304ile.6 for ; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 22:15:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=aPAwgSb3C6B0W50iNGHQe0J8K9qU3n9v6RQljUkMwoM=; b=ue7cbfudmVndzjRLix9yUBmNrP6dQ85vwB0sGAJCxVLx8IxHhlmLyRc50EBZp/4Sdt MLgdfWvL1+QyAJ5ZzXVwd/UZuYnbDyYLeJMKfsbQtNOEz3b5vJRU9GDu2CWa95LmyXND wwN5F9DdCFWtdA5vGuq2UHd6uALCxLRDgMTo/O1fFNd/+vLd8DAUfc99WgcaiXWOZXjX TMSGcBDg7dmhQlWT5wzADaGwNIeH2IWwSuoKDIjM0ViSdgKw1Bp6VRvJVWtXJjICfZhe CP1naA/WAO6ufNbgSN3WjIVF5f77HBuGhv7TVU13VLcm7DhTbPzI0GHEPTrn9tr+wuc4 aOXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=aPAwgSb3C6B0W50iNGHQe0J8K9qU3n9v6RQljUkMwoM=; b=ID+Mb+oqteexCt5z8/0JdWTDFhx+mxZxbA5ImLOrkg27vPdbNb+rLASeoiN0JKf0yL AyDaFALjjeRe3/jqK7W3Oh0GXp14H4WC+EyUze+BGS3DceeCvQ1SMMwH55USmHUh8z7m NBVdWihsBPKBhqVgwxQ54JaqH/JJV/UFPhYNXYI0sQBvvSAj9EJYDXLakE6VAnf9t7Bt rZgVSOW30pwnIsdezkv+N6ENIVrvAOt0N41kUxhuxo7zXc3sMcTBdDj0VJhnZjIAIi3t HEEk1ulb1gN6vNnFqTd1yLGlBc42Z8bh2fmfy1hqtcrKGmi4OMpfMLxom8eL2/WF5hJY sawg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Iz1FdSQFBXUFU7X6Xxq28hV0ckrjJbGVt3SZT0SCyDrb1xQ6S lM+Bd7avtc5FmVy0nWOajv5MWvZib4w0O7BixS3+/Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxLZsD3IaU8NONeLDjAbaCeF1k/lR4POsIoro65AOHICFGhm90LXNSUQAK2r+s9HN29yA9HPOPuUB66yJEY5xU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:db01:: with SMTP id b1mr16556960iln.233.1591506943354; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 22:15:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ad5:46a5:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Jun 2020 22:15:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9E4F4C8A-A2F6-4993-9144-30A4D3721CF1@planet.nl> References: <9E4F4C8A-A2F6-4993-9144-30A4D3721CF1@planet.nl> From: Andrew Warkentin Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 23:15:42 -0600 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] My BSDcan talk X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 6/6/20, Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > > In my view, exposing the host names through integration in the Unix file > name space makes a lot of conceptual sense, but it unfortunately falls down > on the practicalities, with the host name set being hard to enumerate (it is > large, distributed and not stable - even back then). > With a proper dynamic VFS architecture, there is no reason why a resolver with a filesystem API has to bother supporting enumeration at all. All it needs to be able to do is respond to open() and stat() calls, returning ENOENT when resolution fails.