From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19571 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2022 06:09:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jun 2022 06:09:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A147D40C58; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:09:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f179.google.com (mail-pl1-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3846640C2F for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:08:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f179.google.com with SMTP id x20so7527068plx.6 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:08:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2VGBBd3e0UZWmNwWxa7JSexYKJTPvBirv+i0M1RVMsg=; b=CRVWYF8O+pKlw8UY99GiqPhyvulHwJ8zgPg9WjqqWK9GaqhhgzXLx/MgeYEco9udek 0AC4C0+Gb4MKpyUPnTGCZsPksFFGJJciKvkHFHUBGc7IfkKqZubfOqQ8O1CcEAmL0g3v YbvccqB3gnFybSf7gjft9POZ+/icR3THD1SyrxxWX1m8q6VYHEZGYCZD6UhXRzRRNDx5 IvZicnB6d0szYP4FcLTA1t0e/RL07gQWHKLn/UquX4cUdfcxP7WEWIoYFRajCMxTX3i4 tzzrKfwF5C4mL8L823dbGEK3RQsAoazifIbOdrPPLIJX8+55TepWG3nqeC/oZxvSod6N Yszw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9f8iMOqyL542rxogS9Wv3poIE2OIKSUbff3SQDFZxrBHci/Tay 9T5yEm20HB3jNgJRueQxBN1t00ZYc6FL6wF3Zms= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1u5T5nZtgwi4FueqejMFppxnTBe1oDxbF7ILx8D0wN/8jtmYJoCsNXbPXJzJWfVToFLGNSJgT2+rn/gugrIf18= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3e83:b0:1ed:59f0:bc3d with SMTP id rj3-20020a17090b3e8300b001ed59f0bc3dmr3963359pjb.151.1656482937569; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:08:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2803DC51-6CBC-4257-B40C-8A559C27CAE3@planet.nl> <20220625230939.GG19404@mcvoy.com> <07115053-45A0-4758-9B96-0B631D8A5B07@serissa.com> In-Reply-To: From: Stuart Remphrey Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:07:11 +0800 Message-ID: To: Richard Salz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000012065005e28ffd19" Message-ID-Hash: GUD62UT2PIIDWWG2RDNHN6SYP6JYP5AJ X-Message-ID-Hash: GUD62UT2PIIDWWG2RDNHN6SYP6JYP5AJ X-MailFrom: sturem0@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Research Datakit notes List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000012065005e28ffd19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes, I'd thought of Sun's Jini here, part of their Java push -- which IIRC exposed network (un)reliability and tried to address it through service lookup and limited-lifetime lease/renew for remote resource access. Though I'm not sure it went anywhere? (or how TUHS-relevant this is/was... apologies if not) ----- Hmm, apparently Jini became Apache River; last release in 2016, then retired Feb 2022: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jini On Wed, 29 Jun 2022, 05:36 Richard Salz, wrote: > > My theory is that networking is different because it breaks all the time. > > This Sun research paper from 1994 > https://scholar.harvard.edu/waldo/publications/note-distributed-computing > is a classic. > > > --00000000000012065005e28ffd19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I'd thought of Sun's Jini here, part of thei= r Java push -- which IIRC exposed network (un)reliability and tried to addr= ess it through service lookup and limited-lifetime lease/renew for remote r= esource access.
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(o= r how TUHS-relevant this is/was... apologies if not)


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Hmm, apparently Jini became Apache River; = last release in 2016, then retired Feb 2022:


On Wed, 29 Jun 2022, 05:36= Richard Salz, <rich.salz@gmail.c= om> wrote:
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> My theory is that networking is different because it breaks all t= he time.



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