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From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
To: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: COFF <coff@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: [TUHS]: C dialects (was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:33:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD2gp_Q3VbLitTLy3oFhH22RbGwX8kpqrkWhF=0LK7qfmYACuA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230315035930.C68E018C080@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

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On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:59 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:


> I do not grant your basic assertion. Hoare had it right: "ALGOL 60 [was] a
> language so far ahead of its time that it was not only an improvement on
> its
> predecessors but also on nearly all its successors." That would definitely
> include Algol68, which was a classic committee-designed nightmare.
>

Common Lisp came long after 1968, was committee-designed, and is by no
means a nightmare.  It's not a jewel like Scheme is said to be (wrongly
IMO), it's a ball of mud, but balls of mud are best for solving muddy
problems.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-15  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-15  3:59 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-15  4:33 ` John Cowan [this message]
2023-03-16 22:50 ` Bakul Shah
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-10 11:37 [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 15:54 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12  7:39   ` Anthony Martin
2023-03-12 11:40     ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13  3:25       ` John Cowan
2023-03-13 10:40         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2023-03-13 12:19           ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 12:43             ` [TUHS] [TUHS]: C dialects (was: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary) Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-13 12:46               ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-03-13 16:00               ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 19:00                 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-13 19:09                   ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-13 19:17                   ` Steve Nickolas
2023-03-13 20:26                     ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 22:25                       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2023-03-13 20:48                   ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 20:56                     ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-14  1:06                     ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-13 21:00                   ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 21:07                     ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-13 21:14                       ` Dan Cross
2023-03-13 22:15                         ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-13 22:47                           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-14  0:23                             ` Dan Cross
2023-03-14  0:21                           ` Dan Cross
2023-03-14 13:52                             ` Chet Ramey
2023-03-14  1:27                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-13 21:28                       ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-14  0:38                     ` John Cowan
2023-03-14  2:49                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-14  3:06                   ` G. Branden Robinson

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