From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29743 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2021 21:42:22 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Nov 2021 21:42:22 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1BA079C882; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 07:42:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F949C2E5; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 07:39:03 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.b="3DYAANhZ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DA6569C2E5; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 07:38:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f177.google.com (mail-qt1-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D94059C29F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 07:38:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f177.google.com with SMTP id f20so635941qtb.4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:38:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QDUmITF1AOWfcO0PdmYWo6By4WhGjIIZnpwPVbRmvIc=; b=3DYAANhZs/hpgZbDrRxwtsSYmpp0AbfIX4olFNp1nBhA24Gl/Kr5j6l5OlEpS1T2JT gUncCxNe6WIuh25ztEvYv6SsGpN4dHHez0b52FtfslDkveclag9RpHHb+f6QK96stHOI QKSmrPl7WZW6+2GCCak/5d4riGJcXyER8PZl1M4D7T1U37l3VUEWz75MdxKoNrqyHAvd vLW2O1aM/uGFz4YFj3Ptmrl3aq9NOoiiaIn7nj53GyvTWHQqW4Rqh2z8nTFsDjAhEc0N t7sI3Ik3mRYzlIgY8kJr7xjslP9b6M05K3Hfq3HlzTFlBEPARlFfFbgIWkch7Yse7Ifq 9Wgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QDUmITF1AOWfcO0PdmYWo6By4WhGjIIZnpwPVbRmvIc=; b=NEr7P0iux1Bvk3TVZuXmNUlSoaAf9SQV+vsFMLpJzIax4WGzMo08WZpXg/nTdk1DlO zbrLGWRP6oT3FcriJrvuapbMSYJonybHQ7Y7rSVDUcw2kR7P5ZSu7D2oCElYgd0yVBZX YllviBmObNQKKfNbwLvHrW6FOX04H/S4oy15EqsJSwvpRGFrs+yLuyo8gafn/xP5hjRs OzFmFKR3RznFxbb+4e0JUEQOWMjkjh1TWx9grK3ARNgyWvYLEVZqLtwdhE0Ccfvn1RBx JR6N7wCQYs8TsOK7gkfIoKhz7ILSGAfZ+AtYgnUmn0KQB2v1ACg9zCc82EQLnVWfXsSZ WheQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lzjjbqxuO/DbnecLeAoZ5en7yVvl8GGqmuFsPLx0xY+U9rhV2 N2qwOJwuAoWf2yIF9DaEG0I21xHMwMkfPYzc5r/BEb5nYzdAFqLN X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzzb6P6xEnxaTO23ySHYmVxaB8sa0Zkng4wzqo+k+hgOA2mg5puB7FY5CRPkhVhNVezCvse8kCbgVFMzuVtyp0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5c54:: with SMTP id j20mr11219978qtj.121.1637098737921; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:38:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211116040858.se3ygq2butxqopcx@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 16:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bc808405d0eec0b3" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000bc808405d0eec0b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:06 PM Will Senn wrote: > On a less positive note. The professors who originally developed it at > Dartmouth could never quite see there way clear to open source it. True > BASIC? pshaw :). > Yes, well, universities have always been all about the money. > There was a time when I would have loved to run BASIC on linux, bsd, then > Mac and have it be consistent across the platforms, other than as a > curiosity, that time has gone. > Not so much. Bywater Basic (bwbasic), which is a much-extended clone of GW-Basic, and a clone of Commodore-64 Basic (cbmbasic) are both open source, TTY-oriented, and portable to most operating systems and Windows. There are lots of other Basics around: see < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BASIC_dialects>. --000000000000bc808405d0eec0b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Nov 16, 2= 021 at 12:06 PM Will Senn <will.s= enn@gmail.com> wrote:
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On a less positive note. The professors who originally developed it at Dartmouth could never quite see there way clear to open source it. True BASIC? pshaw :).

Yes, well, universities have always been all a= bout the money.
There was a time when I would have loved to run BASIC on linux, bsd, then Mac and have it be consistent across the platforms, other than as a curiosity, that time has gone.

Not so much.=C2=A0 Bywater Basic (bwbasic), which is a much= -extended clone of GW-Basic, and a clone of Commodore-64 Basic (cbmbasic) a= re both open source, TTY-oriented, and portable to most operating systems a= nd Windows.=C2=A0 There are lots of other Basics around: see <https://en.wikipedia= .org/wiki/List_of_BASIC_dialects>.
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