On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 9:11 PM Alan Glasser <alanglasser@gmail.com> wrote:


> There was always social engineering, like Rob mentioned


Me, after a pentesting company had given $EMPLOYER their shpiel:  "And do
you use social engineering?"

"No, we never do that."

"Whyever not?"

"Because it *always* works, so we don't learn anything."