From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14886 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2021 03:10:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Nov 2021 03:10:36 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DD64194550; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 13:10:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CC593D61; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 13:08:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.b="wCS/lJxe"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1BBB293D61; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 13:08:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D81AD93D5E for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2021 13:08:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id d2so12184004qki.12 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pEgZwXrfy+SfkKSmmLZhgQf8ssK0RYj+AIHJHibm9i0=; b=wCS/lJxewPk/c8N/5jp1+uT6dHkdPt+TQ0ccXtESPTljrAslPyogC+fp/tM9H1LbcY GBvcb4lMpTSfrFlNeBT9mb3ot3P2WbqfutI7HqFobcOJrU4sfQ7331icwOQ2mZ1d85EC sIE7e/SYA7/DJBRMtHIHedY/4c818hu1p9RNeA3KJtSKEBUG6Vtn8Br7+hW1xRQz078V 3YgP2kUeMR5H/V3EGKMjEjslFcrq4bxCrbpVrNgPW+bVM45u3wM5QIzt1NuAFika06to 59VogxY1wmIzwl5eSmWmQFJag/k9scaK9bq69+IUdMWzkqxuZah78u/LQdrAOr6l7MoM WnbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pEgZwXrfy+SfkKSmmLZhgQf8ssK0RYj+AIHJHibm9i0=; b=YuD5nSwbjgcumZQeyASMazr9JkFRrf2+LWOr73UybxmKBvztfnvvVtLfGdhIj0SrKT TEHnNpzoeKcTVj/4k/6s8+lSkTufYYjq+grVs1Xf5QYZLqp+OXmMmR+YK5P5MITXI+El 48WZF05MQOq8c73aYU87DO57qPkfuhw3K/Zfh0kbuvFhM1+rV21+hQhnJPhxcdUmVV1+ fKqcR1FKCo6SwoU5bu3BKlDOaEZfopL6h1hX56Dr/isiLmzP4iZ/O6Y7INHIjV+lWq2W RkibBxgqmDTPfywrVtfMJO9zGJfl4z/JchfCrwU/ygvX5bzEqp/VR6TgnIDlaWFUyqpd UmYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530RamRQfhmtBA2B/RnddqS2ZBazo56ywuq7RWLTlm2ecx5jeS+V aC7WG9cvEw184zaMdFuRKSZcua8mgivgrzVW4/lU1Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyvvVBZD0Oz8ofQgm10iuyqBFQgMyfs7bMdDo3wLQbcKtmNYfAd5qAK5ddKmqD+Q4CaebIq8ZWcD7E578WSEyc= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6591:: with SMTP id z139mr31227708qkb.178.1637377713885; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:08:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202111200130.1AK1UIj51103141@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: Alan Glasser Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ffe69005d12fb45b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Two anecdotes X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ffe69005d12fb45b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 9:11 PM Alan Glasser wrote: > There was always social engineering, like Rob mentioned Me, after a pentesting company had given $EMPLOYER their shpiel: "And do you use social engineering?" "No, we never do that." "Whyever not?" "Because it *always* works, so we don't learn anything." --000000000000ffe69005d12fb45b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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There was always social engineering, li= ke Rob mentioned

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"No, we never do that."

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