From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24266 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2020 18:25:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Nov 2020 18:25:06 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4F67C9D4E8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:25:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEAB9D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:24:31 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="mLDcA850"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BDEA39D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:24:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f52.google.com (mail-qv1-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C18D09D4B4 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 04:24:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f52.google.com with SMTP id i17so872590qvp.11 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:24:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+SSCOc3P6017TSYVp0aqECMrRY0QOyWKnVC5gRXhT3w=; b=mLDcA8509QFHVG3x33aiUEtcYEcyGaGu7Zt8GBdZBWrHSQrrcaC/QpnsUoz5tOaJcr S5xJ2xZM69zR/iEgxc12jWmMtp2rrneY2f0MKhI8nk/xfZpAk+TnIBr7nOtjDlKHeomx wmTETy6GNHACyYLGfXItFCuThGPHtOJAsZ1lqonCDPZLPyVgVveNrb+HkfhzV1+sufCu ANFtdgEl8cOxNeZ1jqQQ5yKoiB/EHJxEwoMKJ6UJaK2s2O4Po9SK6Vsj8mtvIEyQO6Kw xoxplKx5wckNDUBJlK2zLSzkkpKtFBGucdY7uSyGjEJFSNirGDxX3E//Ii5mGaEXqJFJ wBnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+SSCOc3P6017TSYVp0aqECMrRY0QOyWKnVC5gRXhT3w=; b=IpbJSNVVuQhF+qBHyO9VDf7Xwg50w0pvwBVLGcNY8dPAVq+EEMnNAg3lwwcFGn9TbX eDyqmlvCXG9U8YsU9ZH7bpyhJsTqt8yuSEv2JaNAXKXShNpjj4lkE7OUYivHscpCgRWG EvmicKqOU115bXFRXgF7aRjiPrkvP2vSaflYmYnOz8WdFKLwX+zw0crog6jOTAvZDtR8 D2uqRls5UUhVxDMGVgzDI5FrD5RHh9Th6BcgENfuyYRCkrb2oB+tovaxXaJDy9KeSdV/ cyyHzE0OEIghqDmMJz5q9lo5/oodUDNh2n0Z5/94xuTfYD+mMlIXXbK/VLZOA5gr9Z0D BCeA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZpoiG9yuMSMl34vHW/GfIIogs+a9FdsjBv2/IbXt5W0hYzgxz 9oRypSEiWwnx6ZSe+4izwNCSgHFZLXzRoOfj2UfnAg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyiOYYrxV2vRabMGwGsxgTUsQRJOMxdNJ1EbAPCMPxBYEYZ7dA5yn+Lr4+7aO0sknAoL2oK8mdrJnICtDQO+U= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:a105:: with SMTP id d5mr2804451qva.35.1604687065736; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:24:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201106014109.GP26296@mcvoy.com> <20201106063725.GB99027@eureka.lemis.com> <5BE1CBD5-C9EB-45D4-B135-E58BCCCBE38C@gmail.com> <3c54b19d-e604-68eb-2b4b-0b65e9cfb896@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3c54b19d-e604-68eb-2b4b-0b65e9cfb896@earthlink.net> From: John Cowan Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 13:24:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: sclark46@earthlink.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000087967405b37452ba" Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000087967405b37452ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:26 PM Stephen Clark wrote: > May have had to do with the first terminal commonly used with UNIX. > > The Model 33 > In fact the Labs had the more recent Model 37, which did lower case, unlike the 33. Consequently, Unix was (I think) the first case-sensitive operating system. However, it had to work on 33s as well; if you tried to log in using an uppercase username, login would turn on the IUCLC and OLCUC bits of /dev/tty, and if you needed an uppercase letter you had to escape it (I think with \), which the tty driver processed. Thanks to everyone for filling in all the gaps in the chain from dollar bills to 80-column terminal windows that I had left implicit. To clarify my position, what I am opposed to is not the use of 80-column windows for *reading* email. I'm not happy with what happens to text that is hard-wrapped at 80 columns when displayed in a narrower window, as often happens to me now that I use larger fonts than I used to. The text/format-flowed MIME type was supposed to help with this problem, but never really caught on. "Well, I'm back." --Sam John Cowan --00000000000087967405b37452ba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Nov 6, 20= 20 at 12:26 PM Stephen Clark <= sclark46@earthlink.net> wrote:
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May have had to do with the first te= rminal commonly used with UNIX.

The Model 33=C2=A0

In fact the Labs had the more recent Model 37, which did lower case, unlik= e the 33.=C2=A0 Consequently, Unix was (I think) the first case-sensitive o= perating system.=C2=A0 However, it had to work on 33s as well; if you tried= to log in using an uppercase username, login would turn on the IUCLC and O= LCUC bits of /dev/tty, and if you needed an uppercase=C2=A0letter you had t= o escape it (I think with \), which the tty driver processed.

Thanks to everyone fo= r filling in all the gaps in the chain from dollar bills to 80-column termi= nal windows that I had left implicit.=C2=A0 To clarify my position, what I = am opposed to is not the use of 80-column windows for *reading* email.=C2= =A0 I'm not happy with what happens to text that is hard-wrapped at 80 = columns when displayed in a narrower window, as often happens to me now tha= t I use larger fonts than I used to.=C2=A0 The text/format-flowed MIME type= was supposed to help with this problem, but never really caught on.
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"Well, I'= ;m back." =C2=A0--Sam =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>

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