From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4040 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2023 01:12:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jan 2023 01:12:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE35D42528; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:12:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f47.google.com (mail-ua1-f47.google.com [209.85.222.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4D842525 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:11:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f47.google.com with SMTP id z13so1019824uav.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:11:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fYHbrPqBPnnbzra66UKAGHOWhpKCp8KZEDw6b4vQvw8=; b=C7XQMtFhfNFUmhZlNgnVto95QaGfTygZGNfj82YeuUZDcsnk2p6s+8htQ8DNqgW76u bLXPTl4325lV0p2GwUK3nBUzPBn81VBtKeygHnGAbCQ6tUPTQk1+9Mh0F1zsBm3bZcaE ZA0CrQDx3TD8HaISQJRI/oZkACohYfeBzlE/dEdQJj1N8aEbcFRvvdFEBt7mAFUqr+1u fpl7WyPAzQfygtqkrB7X0O6Erv83B1I1MxoOYOzY4Gpgfc3Y7OHYtFx9RoFlDaRxkikf JKafl/uGZV5Dfp7SJbbVNZ1aeYbcuv23jrVZ/jAINjfAJP/J5jLwls4hhBAKeqAOe6G3 9lTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=fYHbrPqBPnnbzra66UKAGHOWhpKCp8KZEDw6b4vQvw8=; b=xfQQhrKI+N9Bc65iujkc8ZfYsa7RNSywdC0aKdlGqoccmrbTW1Xjnr0gQvo6M/FQE6 xi++EebWeZmTgeN0cGdBv5W37LfqIXg/5Czs0LAKtrANACdfazIPTZh/4Us7aLeooqGX OUdRYe9ymIKQb1Qp5VgOxXLQq5zq7lkus+RFevWvuYhO0x0uBnc7gGe6iw3ny/dGoRRc KUtal2VyFjUeK1Pap3auKj98T6M6msdBrpCH25xkeWxXzcpPxOu8tWd6hAsTZcR9UURY ZOzKPzlX9d/W5DjVEikxz/CPGAghlEJzcJurYJUBZBaAolZYARkwDeVj0ndnc4NYLXfC M6Dw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpYUtv/a9u9J08Xr3TxgYqtLGRabJpC7NURCeogDNWa3kcWaytB Aslac40yhMonZp5fIsTLW7NqL/I4y3VUkokzZEYU/y3oUS0iuw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXsdrATS0YgwN4bUMUA6x0JhHIQ3P5pn9SKwbZEzLvA9ufUD5zXvggEFdwhU69GR0oKR8+ivps6OAL/UMBTzpk0= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:3155:0:b0:419:25c5:30dc with SMTP id e21-20020ab03155000000b0041925c530dcmr1678317uam.26.1674177057141; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:10:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> <7cc2b7c5-5e98-9299-4fa8-a477fbf4ff77@makerlisp.com> In-Reply-To: <7cc2b7c5-5e98-9299-4fa8-a477fbf4ff77@makerlisp.com> From: John Cowan Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: Luther Johnson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c84e9905f2a7b893" Message-ID-Hash: BRJBLU5JL3S4LSOJHF2WIAS4HXJIKFIL X-Message-ID-Hash: BRJBLU5JL3S4LSOJHF2WIAS4HXJIKFIL X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000c84e9905f2a7b893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:23 PM Luther Johnson wrote: Computers that are not smart phone-like are definitely on the endangered > species list. You know, the kind on a desk, with a keyboard ... > I don't have statistics for this, but I doubt it. Consider amateur radio, which has been around for a century now. Amateur stations are an ever-shrinking *fraction* of all transmitters, to say nothing of receivers, but in absolute terms there are now more than 2 million hams in the world, which is almost certainly more than ever. --000000000000c84e9905f2a7b893 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Th= u, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:23 PM Luther Johnson <luther@makerlisp.com> wrote:

Computers that are not smart phone-like are definitely on the endangere= d
species list. You know, the kind on=C2=A0 a desk, with=C2=A0 a keyboard ...=

I don't have = statistics for this, but I doubt it.=C2=A0 Consider amateur radio, which ha= s been around for a century now.=C2=A0 Amateur stations are an ever-shrinki= ng *fraction* of all transmitters, to say nothing of receivers, but in abso= lute terms there are now more than 2 million hams in the world, which is al= most certainly more than ever.
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