From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24744 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2022 13:09:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jun 2022 13:09:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2276D40C4D; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:09:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com (mail-pf1-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C997E40117 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:09:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id i64so6651430pfc.8 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dLzcDFgeWOrBRhRil2CBc6PhSdSZzQPSGXZqFtD83gg=; b=p2R4REQg64nHKdLz5btzqdIseaLDKMdFkMJ/Mtp+GSinm7B6WDATdcZcL7UQikw2+1 w8Q3J52RBrgpTrfqkzZ9OF0fhhe05cuqS5CKOPm082gK+Vrvy4ExpOr8wVgq6Rvf6I2g JsMczU1gl+I6nWjH5sqXuKezpyZ3ATwNTzarVuRRBawjVDArWPAktkhjdWlI3D6NYyog mxE7BmMLQ44YHoIIh4RwxSi4+yYV6J5ePIPnoXUj4Gk9VzUJsBcIm43L7gFQoLkkWidC 5vYUbZaiqyNy7fbC5GRRdrgbGbhi3Hgn95D58PE3NQ+cfgn5u7LYIKCSnuaLuOOZ7GZy bGwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dLzcDFgeWOrBRhRil2CBc6PhSdSZzQPSGXZqFtD83gg=; b=Cztc2zMGyedfihCxR8Td1IzTac6dL2ea2tPRq1G4RAs00ICm/Jt6TzwG4shckMR3Rx W5A5vZmlzboYqu7BRpZ0Uev+YbLLEHO0sU3rRaVq/5FUJnR7hNFyx/5sEVzWxLhfGMAA UJnU/M9n/Kcbr9ViXTizOfZ4HG5V8gbxF6U5gDk1NHwmFkMG04z1J0XxgB6ICogjCnS0 wcJf1QSCHYlMqGwAce78APkM2FHRut0V4U+rVBj/Br2NEYIyI/tIS2IRY36UqhebKFyB 9V2SKx0/GdIgqaFgiIgfoY04kTVC7YwIPMZleafxW7BicukHh49Z5RWtb2mRCJNB91r2 qa8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+cWNb84GfJ+aWJtqKX4i9i9KmcLmGkjWdrsJFX4Asx3iDYy8DK YwbmlQ+aKgsfXFX2BtJ2JBKV7i6HKh3DPM7WJciRLCy1uCF5Zw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1u7hOoS4izLdQvxOcpeTmrw1W+OI75m8SyfMmWPaEXCy3hrggFFVQojWmSjdXjuhEMrMEDFBWNijiuVqRTKNIg= X-Received: by 2002:a63:7248:0:b0:40c:762e:c866 with SMTP id c8-20020a637248000000b0040c762ec866mr7964626pgn.558.1656248880165; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 06:08:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220626021956.0140918C0A2@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20220626021956.0140918C0A2@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: John Cowan Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 09:07:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000298d5a05e2597ea0" Message-ID-Hash: F5X43LQKDNP4KAD2ZDIYFRJPKLVMEE4H X-Message-ID-Hash: F5X43LQKDNP4KAD2ZDIYFRJPKLVMEE4H X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Research Datakit notes List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000298d5a05e2597ea0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 10:20 PM Noel Chiappa wrote: > it had things called 'flows' which were half way between pure > datagrams (i.e. no setup - you just stick the right destination address in > the > header and send it off) and VCs (read the RFCs if you want to kow why), > In that connection I have always admired Padlipsky's RFC 962, which exploits the existing TCP architecture to do just this. So simple, so easy, so Unixy. --000000000000298d5a05e2597ea0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Jun 25, 2= 022 at 10:20 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
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it had things called 'flows= 9; which were half way between pure
datagrams (i.e. no setup - you just stick the right destination address in = the
header and send it off) and VCs (read the RFCs if you want to kow why),
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In that connection I = have always admired Padlipsky's RFC 962, which exploits the existing TC= P architecture to do just this.=C2=A0 So simple, so easy, so Unixy.
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