From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2569 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2023 05:24:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Feb 2023 05:24:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860C343284; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:24:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2f]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6C6343281 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:24:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com with SMTP id o6so5988249vsq.10 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:24:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=F8xCnLhNFIqpvlbHJzEtik1NNQJZLXItu8Xj/Fag2vc=; b=Tkn7c0bWDSP4c6wS9cvr1B1hW7oKwnCA4f+Hgl4sHwIsM438C5TfGJkAbK/cQzu7v/ AWXJLaxFT3HxNtwO6vKVRDrcv4eDYi6spQy7bQ9I647HjmaYAJs8kKXsD4R1+5PyNVJ7 zfRWomkhLtqVPvVOg2QlUq0baJe5T73IvuFCVsv8VqqbAkQK+SIJyjGnSFwhiwqew9nF XyAp8o4RdCKBnesg7LBMXd+cRgN8pOXf4QNHNV2wNyOQLAWMZEIdw5UuOjfuIN+5cqnw 87sXU6A/74LTrL9MiIK4+U4yS3+vQ6tzPHI51y8h06cD6Q16uz14NrVBjyL/fyxO/ekt U5UQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=F8xCnLhNFIqpvlbHJzEtik1NNQJZLXItu8Xj/Fag2vc=; b=lg3MeLY2StVoeZjaofQ5Z7bnd05GDyMCHy8+VaUeyP+4FfQ3mvMRA709bOsRnaIDJv Uj/YEM1kt01y5qeRIc3cvS4yKT1Cd5BiR4vD0CTQUjl9ompsL0gqsy+NtJ9455SzBL1Q QrZ2wGLLvF8nbU5F5cn4oo7qdi+GhzxTVUA1H0I2+4Fv4Z0HityA383+SjQbk5Cx+IXM sWcbP0n77V04SuhhXVukPKSQBhK+gfg3v/6hRU0rQwMmy2brRD3OWol8MidPAD5oUdIL oKpwM22FQfiBtMqCF8d3+jxL/OfucwA/qpWlQ/9sZwB8vxQAoDaPyiIto20kz93PkkaY dtcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXJF3aWuBG9LvMVWus6boYvMkqNWU99wdG2FdyLPxC+yOfvi2tG MsR9+gQftDv099R1iCOdyCQhPZovm4GLTIDzdb/hCA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+wzFIlJYgv435dW5Ux6fSkz1Yq3ckaaCxXVzLXGxUdWUGRBpcYFUgTeeRzeI1UhzGdBX/zdrzQ9mtBjZzWfSw= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:bf4a:0:b0:401:4daf:d581 with SMTP id p71-20020a1fbf4a000000b004014dafd581mr5094645vkf.0.1677389068397; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <58626A0B-EF9C-4920-8E20-CE0C4210BA6A@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 00:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Theodore Ts'o" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009281a805f5939390" Message-ID-Hash: AG23X3BC5DTFR3D44SALYPRURTF7NB4J X-Message-ID-Hash: AG23X3BC5DTFR3D44SALYPRURTF7NB4J X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early GUI on Linux List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000009281a805f5939390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 9:40=E2=80=AFPM Theodore Ts'o wrote= : > We just wanted to be able to have multiple xterms > and Emacs windows. > In fact that's pretty much what I do to this day: I do everything in terminals and do browsing etc. elsewhere. At that point, X windows wasn't *flaky* per se, but rem If you got > the calculations wrong, the image might not be stable, but that wasn't > a software bug so much as it was a configuration error. > However, most configuration errors can't reduce your hardware to a useless pile of junk, whereas older CRT monitors could definitely be destroyed if the configuration was too far off nominal. --0000000000009281a805f5939390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sa= t, Feb 25, 2023 at 9:40=E2=80=AFPM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
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We just wanted to be able to h= ave multiple xterms
and Emacs windows.

In fact that's pretty much what I do to this day: I do everything in t= erminals and do browsing etc. elsewhere.
At that point, X w= indows wasn't *flaky* per se, but rem= =C2=A0If you got
the calculations wrong, the image might not be stable, but that wasn't<= br> a software bug so much as it was a configuration error.

However, most configuration errors ca= n't reduce your hardware to a useless pile of junk, whereas older CRT m= onitors could definitely be destroyed if the configuration was too far off = nominal.
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