From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32541 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2023 07:22:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2023 07:22:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AF04242E; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:21:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f41.google.com (mail-vs1-f41.google.com [209.85.217.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74A2D4242C for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:21:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 3so1050143vsq.7 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:21:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MmQGUj6iwPOvgC7qgQI7Y03gVEPeESQ+mqrKdJczgRs=; b=AvCnopitny5Rwlnl0n4djEOe1r+dvF/TO3lWUp37hHrgfD4rmXm8lCNXaoENMvcMgq 5tQsX9dRSspj9d3zAa+fWqpYxcoc1I1XtxT6vhUW5CTcxOqeaELSKoA0F84wmd2LUoYh HW5/5g/r32SQ7bNOwwNeRXNLHHfaabG5Y+We5B3jECDhKWO9B3ai/7PLu05r/Z4fuWyA 1IOtcj0GBwc0xKViJ5wcIYQe82S5W7E+SGKzhDz/47VzsOfLML21bmBmV4XUpUB2T2yA hiHHlO+2mWZoKzbyZE3oVPrMzXxM8CbvGMcBZA5pBUPkE+L0b1qq270GBk59W/JigbPC KL+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=MmQGUj6iwPOvgC7qgQI7Y03gVEPeESQ+mqrKdJczgRs=; b=xER+UN18ixu0nwJoLL6Pk4LULk9O1yW/yTIgQNv/JYOMCYB1Hrvo6RS0ubb9DBX8wh zXWrrbxWpnZbrORLX2Wocaa6jSEyUh5kx0sp4K0w/KuZW5giSdC1LQXCHZGZ4E9x6xRR fDi6DdOi8JdjVNPKFzTFUue/BaEzEeelgXReBICpmWOF64iXskuU6Kw+7ei6wHxIMyOZ nqAPhWai7r5vI2U9N8Buv6YkXFAji6kwu+2fp2/aueCOaqlnZ3ZyoiyFB+djEK4a2/8H lch5I7zvhaUZd7jo1q16vwziRlw3htF3s7i6Y8MMsNxXp9IA9ZvJvFDeaiX2AnU37zZh M/Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kp0Oh0p5l2mT2tqPZBAmhtm7UreLRN2gQzHwxNPIjhVyeoipbkV bMnDJvGf4xxmyQcjrt9i59tJ/B7DCtVCAxzm0qaDkw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXsyOWUQJbMJwpHNeg/2+fazCjIiA/ldEzto2IhJY/CVeB+3Kyi4UlIlZCgLEGCkWHp6yp31atRFLvBqqDd65/I= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f75a:0:b0:3bb:958e:973b with SMTP id w26-20020a67f75a000000b003bb958e973bmr4897968vso.25.1674717651434; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:20:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: To: Chris Hanson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b692c005f32596fa" Message-ID-Hash: CPWTO6WQFQEKNRGTDYH3BA4ELMM744PW X-Message-ID-Hash: CPWTO6WQFQEKNRGTDYH3BA4ELMM744PW X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Joseph Holsten , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000b692c005f32596fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:47 PM Chris Hanson wrote: > > * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a > PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it > the integration of display into the system that differentiates? > > I think "a graphical system intended to be used by a professional to use > in their work" is a good starting point for a definition. I should check at > home tonight how "A History of Personal Workstations" defines it. > WP says the Terak 8510/a was the first graphical workstation; it came out in 1976-77 and ran the UCSD p-System. I had never heard of it before. The first *personal* workstation (non-graphical) was probably the IBM 1620 (aka the CADET system, "Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try") from 1959. --000000000000b692c005f32596fa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On We= d, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:47 PM Chris Hanson <cmhanson@eschatologist.net> wrote:
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> * What do I= really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a PDP-11 with a = single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it the integratio= n of display into the system that differentiates?

I think "a graphical system intended to be used by a professional to u= se in their work" is a good starting point for a definition. I should = check at home tonight how "A History of Personal Workstations" de= fines it.

WP says= the Terak 8510/a was the first graphical workstation; it came out in 1976-= 77 and ran the UCSD p-System.=C2=A0 I had never heard of it before. The fir= st *personal* workstation (non-graphical) was probably the IBM 1620 (aka th= e CADET system, "Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try") from 1959.=
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