From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28762 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2023 17:52:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Aug 2023 17:52:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6E441604; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 03:52:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 087E941601 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 03:52:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-79a46f02d45so476989241.0 for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 10:52:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20221208.gappssmtp.com; s=20221208; t=1691085121; x=1691689921; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CiZGmm8hl50RhRMf+XOtFAbrsAXqzfhlFGh9UmncU3o=; b=PX2ISUagj7ZW98R2Uy+ZG+RPJJ00ulu1/0CSrsifkWVwLx8/VdgkQYLKAw9mVVsYkf At4MlBZR0jJ0Rl92SkJSo+qbVvKn7GUEKAJsnDBCa6K3uXdZWdSxfs9zKIXO0ByxAbEw RIRshz+WGS6zmFDnaRI1q8D50WsqkV+TGYTrVk9B+kjnfKcd385Nf6whISxvZOA3R1md c4XNIimw3D5j+ShHpy+o7OOIrxF8M/MWG9+zIEh74Swvn/uWoNImnT88myIJpnHxlnyQ RmWQl2+VGJ6gTOOO/8AIjJ0vLHb8f13EVcSKVHoRKsvG5T4beZBKMITH6lwIuezO3yu/ cCYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691085121; x=1691689921; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=CiZGmm8hl50RhRMf+XOtFAbrsAXqzfhlFGh9UmncU3o=; b=OLeEwF/45Y/kbpdHq6gr7kWgRwTsZshjvHIfm518wK4imT95babgbvx5rw4KLGQ9Mr v8s/tXf3GIpeGXWGjOWa2yIgGaken1ToqW1nWRJdpNr613B8KHgOjEeTiL09jMiFZqml roWxJYZpXkQIdEBEI5iTzk7Hw8rBqgSW6AnnDzaztOL+7SkNP01INFAfBXmQlEi7iWsI IYenkXj4zP3qFrX4nPBn4w45ZVVxt7DUbffBQ767CqpyED0qVZJd+AEWocyezqbkDt7M uZueyD07XAHnMppfxI1GAScbEXmog4d/YISm3NM5AJQvMcqBdm25KRGgNclPts0NMgFf ntOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwzwbbNrwhKDH4pc0Ztt2eJhSsLBbyQZW5popUYIHb1ErVYuUP4 kg/jEdRTT7zgmv6+deUGBy2czM07ar6zzMRMJpGsySv1N/UbuHP3udU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFjG1wLj8rMsYS/wG/h9kw4/UgyJHMQ1yCegmPIz4ByZPcaVk94yOjUfgIbWCO7mTZwkRlCA867rpzrUoQ3nIE= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f64c:0:b0:447:d044:3e3e with SMTP id u12-20020a67f64c000000b00447d0443e3emr959364vso.27.1691085121024; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 10:52:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8246.1690761540@cesium.clock.org> <29602.1690887524@cesium.clock.org> <20230803005106.GA12652@mcvoy.com> <202308031657.373GvVvW008640@ultimate.com> <8e45b8b1-cf3c-e47c-bd15-d19a2ae5cc1d@gmail.org> In-Reply-To: <8e45b8b1-cf3c-e47c-bd15-d19a2ae5cc1d@gmail.org> From: John Cowan Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 13:51:46 -0400 Message-ID: To: Alejandro Colomar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ec836b0602086fe4" Message-ID-Hash: SBF44PCJXNGLXPYI7LTIKDTDNIKVJLC5 X-Message-ID-Hash: SBF44PCJXNGLXPYI7LTIKDTDNIKVJLC5 X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ec836b0602086fe4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:29=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Colomar wrote: But if speed is not a problem, I'd keep the good ol' syntax that everybody knows. No need to make everybody learn a "cool" new print > function, that probably won't be as tunable as printf(3) is. > > By that argument, there would be no C, only Algol 68 and PL/I, or subsets of them. --000000000000ec836b0602086fe4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Th= u, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:29=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:

But if speed is not a prob= lem, I'd keep the good ol' syntax that
everybody knows.=C2=A0 No need to make everybody learn a "cool" n= ew print
function, that probably won't be as tunable as printf(3) is.


By that argument,= there would be no C, only Algol 68 and PL/I, or subsets of them.
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