From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32085 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2021 17:16:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Feb 2021 17:16:35 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0A29E9CA8E; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 03:16:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B7393D39; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 03:16:13 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="buRCJV8b"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B6D3993D39; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 03:16:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f177.google.com (mail-qk1-f177.google.com [209.85.222.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 458D493D32 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 03:16:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id h8so13308477qkk.6 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:16:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=S89QzFzXK588F6l+byRTvkNIZqH4aGkWT9Kavp9uQGY=; b=buRCJV8bceZM2Ekhw6GNdwIeBQp0KibqETEGzb3igoM4KxUGCf6dfsOquIxLMqSsX5 k3WsJJxPF8exBK6lD2g7BObmOp8okFS7gwo630yIo2vSZ8nGwAHEfeXf/5i6iXzVQ4Fu mOM01iT+8y7DZ4K5Idg+hjtutpYSOr6iL03B9LGW1f2/snUd5tAfANYIyitclZJnbMl8 +NaEOITX/iOQZyubfGAy+CC/yqL5e/fB/2Os9ehjHBio8kIYixvUdvIc9jLw+XrP0z44 Ud227UYnSiRVGprJqMSG8p11qNnLPW/w0xR2PuduYVPCAv1UPMcyJgBAi6rzZ4fIZlI3 hEhg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=S89QzFzXK588F6l+byRTvkNIZqH4aGkWT9Kavp9uQGY=; b=mlxHkbT7javGYM5XQH7FVPXvtAdMZbmcW+UkccmCvusaUZ0Arp0hrqcA9wnOsSPXXr 0Jfw2r1pA5/KBvNSALUVIW0eOMaULbNtX/GxcwolAJNm7JAWFZNuSi7Lh/+RtRFFDC5H Ralq07fg7duuscs78CbLcM045EgdbrHGLXlnuZlSWruG5L9gjIW3VNtoOFSIbvYeDu5q yGTdA0CvTUVnO5qxR2cqraVenJMHIqHakhFcsW4IYNTtkDGZCA3rJX5zmL9d2f/Rk1wQ q3F6UHbL/yLuG9MgwUzbLJEQvQSKnm0em81EmqibMo96rERaNkyDndVn7pVhU0x4wzKU B6IQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531SxZgF0AWNTmuEJ3nIF83ifOwdv9XhtpooTEVqQAGUk0EOYAQQ HT9leCI+mSEw3NhduVoBDatnmCWQVk1cubV1afgUT+UUqQlUEM5H X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwO3we8aPSefRC2m3OpZ8T0M7HrMuKgywGQSshDGSGMj34EYD2kgLv4IDSeX15n6aB3eVr71Vsbcz4QkTsDmaY= X-Received: by 2002:a37:a151:: with SMTP id k78mr21392285qke.359.1614014168202; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:16:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210222033217.dkqavclp22sa77ln@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:15:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: Robert Clausecker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002896a605bbeff524" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Proliferation of options is great simplification of pipes, really? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000002896a605bbeff524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:17 AM Robert Clausecker wrote: > I'm not sure if it would be that simple. With preprocessors like > soelim, your script would have to be able to open arbitrary external > files to find out what preprocessors are needed. And perhaps other > preprocessors too could trigger dependencies on additional > preprocessors depending on how they are used. > True enough, but you'd be no better off in principle if you were using an explicit pipeline, especially if you are sourcing files that you didn't write: your knowledge of the content may be vague. John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Heckler: "Go on, Al, tell 'em all you know. It won't take long." Al Smith: "I'll tell 'em all we *both* know. It won't take any longer." --0000000000002896a605bbeff524 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Feb 22, 2= 021 at 11:17 AM Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz= .su> wrote:
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I'm not sure if it would be that simple.=C2=A0 With preprocessors like<= br> soelim, your script would have to be able to open arbitrary external
files to find out what preprocessors are needed.=C2=A0 And perhaps other preprocessors too could trigger dependencies on additional
preprocessors depending on how they are used.

True enough, but you'd be no better off in = principle if you were using an explicit pipeline, especially if you are sou= rcing files that you didn't write: your knowledge of the content may be= vague.

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John Cowan =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://vrici.lo= jban.org/~cowan =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cowan@ccil.org
Heckler: "Go on, Al, tell 'em all you = know.=C2=A0 It won't take long."
Al Smith= : "I'll tell 'em all we *both* know.=C2=A0 It won't take a= ny longer."
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