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From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
To: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cole's Slaw
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:49:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD2gp_SdbUQjT90fstuc9JvQ_ZzKnzeQ9M0x5kGqjtCxQEtYbw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1479.1607559546@hop.toad.com>

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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com> wrote:

That certainly worked for closing the Digital Divide.  Some suggested
> allocating billions in tax dollars to subsidize the un-networked in the
> 1990s and 2000's.  Instead we mostly just waited a few years.
> Semiconductor economics plus consumer behavior (demand rises very
> quickly as prices drop, which provides economies of scale) solve most of
> the problem for you.
>

Not quite yet.  As of 2018, which is the latest data I can find, only 73%
of U.S. households have 10 Mbps download speed or better, and only 46% have
100 Mbps service or better.  If you look at the lowest quartile of
household incomes, the figures are 33% and 18% respectively.  (You want
adoption figures, not deployment figures.)  Wiring up the whole country is
fine, but if people won't or can't use it, it does little good.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:53 PM Erik E. Fair <fair-tuhs@netbsd.org> wrote:

 How many terabytes of stable storage do you have at home?
>

None at all, unless you count physical books.  I don't bother with home
backups because they don't provide disaster recovery: I'm not going to be
thinking about grabbing a hard disk on my way out the door if there's a
fire or flood.  Instead, I keep about 186 GB in an S3 bucket (a fair amount
of that is redundant, but it doesn't make sense for me to spend time
deduplicating files).  I also have about 4 GB in two Google accounts.
 Essentially all of that is text/plain, text/html, or application/pdf.



John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        cowan@ccil.org
Monday we watch-a Firefly's house, but he no come out.  He wasn't home.
Tuesday we go to the ball game, but he fool us.  He no show up.  Wednesday
he
go to the ball game, and we fool him.  We no show up.  Thursday was a
double-header.  Nobody show up.  Friday it rained all day.  There was no
ball
game, so we stayed home and we listened to it on-a the radio.  --Chicolini

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-10  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-09  4:35 [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? M Douglas McIlroy
2020-12-09 15:40 ` Clem Cole
2020-12-09 15:46   ` Niklas Karlsson
2020-12-09 16:01   ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 16:11     ` Clem Cole
2020-12-09 17:05       ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 17:42         ` Dan Stromberg
2020-12-09 23:46           ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-12-14 20:28     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-14 22:23       ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-12-14 23:04         ` Andrew Hume
2020-12-14 23:59       ` Harald Arnesen
2020-12-17  4:08         ` John Cowan
2020-12-15  2:57       ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-15  3:05         ` Warner Losh
     [not found]   ` <CAC20D2PXZY9aWgDf-RknROs6JbKEUjzbQ2BRzfTgTR07pXni3g@mail.g mail.com>
2020-12-09 16:04     ` John Foust
2020-12-09 16:40   ` Warner Losh
2020-12-09 16:53     ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-09 16:58   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-09 19:58     ` Dan Cross
2020-12-09 20:30       ` Will Senn
2020-12-13  1:07       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13  1:56         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-13  2:58           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13  3:07             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-13 16:49               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13 19:06                 ` [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? [ really linux and filesystems ] Jon Steinhart
2020-12-13  3:02         ` [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? Dan Cross
2020-12-09 23:22     ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 23:44       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-12-09 23:51         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-12-10  0:19   ` [TUHS] Cole's Slaw John Gilmore
2020-12-10  0:29     ` Larry McVoy
2020-12-10  0:53       ` Erik E. Fair
2020-12-10  3:10         ` George Michaelson
2020-12-12 21:11       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-10  1:49     ` John Cowan [this message]
2020-12-10  2:12       ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-12  2:56   ` [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? Dave Horsfall
2020-12-12 19:10     ` scj

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