From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_OBFUSCATE_10_20,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31659 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2022 12:44:54 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Apr 2022 12:44:54 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9148C9CF44; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:44:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB489CF09; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:42:38 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.b="O+XXRunH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D96D39CF09; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:42:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f44.google.com (mail-pj1-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F09839CF04 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:42:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-f44.google.com with SMTP id fv2so9217946pjb.4 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 05:42:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mQaO9XQZOSyBIOcbG43nPCIEERSIvpLRd1YG7q7bsjo=; b=O+XXRunHdC3xNab6nIgJ3sFGJJ3ydst4HycD7tt8tFzDFIVROFWJwyo2EKqIMrgcCM cBbiqR7eRSUlmdSud7CfgXasaUevW5Ol+qEloQAL/1mOKJRHzL4tG2bia4BxtTyWRV+M aBP1D+ogsSuLZD8f23mgQTlA/cjdWdrnr9VYSJUdZrcSNfmOGuE2HTKL4e407Aczs07c mNHzlHMSTxFCsQb3QkTE6JsjZDZEWB7y3ycUSL/Z2fUUuDHHjELIj9mXKAyuHu03INJw cFsHFhbM6TpdVdOZCMOdMDD1Py5+86e9o12FKhRU/HsiGzON+XHk2+usR18fc8AtxRAk KZ+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mQaO9XQZOSyBIOcbG43nPCIEERSIvpLRd1YG7q7bsjo=; b=KcTDo15N+e3Bha99fjhDEGfSblm7SiticUKWfruSAyODxOpROZPbecCJ2eWBIIqlLt /DujwSQo/J737YVhjsWCUGcbSc34hyC2YG1q8vzXjx46gVIjGE8fL1aeEKvafP1zVAAC RvnA38tO6IOC8oOrEOX3bE/o4rH4OjjpqpKhYuFNYgZvOawbsa84r5Ba/HdR6Cpkz0Xd f5KtWIpyNr3gOAMQCx0Gslf9yzw/J9tRfPYBy/jdLLqzqnxh6XV8w80HCwNiRXlFRxyW SqMSerCior9cUIFnmasW7Htjv1sH2JnKaIFaoypyq28EQH34uJvbr4b7bYw/mLcKsyea gfnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Q3yZDgzupK7ZyjmKvndVGbTylNaFoLv2MwQzJOFMfzLsnbEaQ VWyP1IbP1XGReCaln+7a9Z+KDzJsq+mOLckEaPC8NZMPKG8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxajL5v9/xP6t0CjIQ08tEvAD/XR0Aqoyr00xGEtfPAzC2jGeLtVOCXvaFaR5cLQbcDMliEFp69dUSoaU9bJvI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d2c4:b0:15e:850b:c1d with SMTP id n4-20020a170902d2c400b0015e850b0c1dmr3661414plc.4.1651322552460; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 05:42:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220430104546.1C13022135@orac.inputplus.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20220430104546.1C13022135@orac.inputplus.co.uk> From: John Cowan Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 08:42:23 -0700 Message-ID: To: Ralph Corderoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002639fc05ddde7e1f" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Aleph Null in Software Practice & Experience. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000002639fc05ddde7e1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 3:53 AM Ralph Corderoy wrote: accompanied by a note that Lang isn't =D7=90=E2=82=80. > Note that on correct Unicode renderers this is being shown as null-aleph instead of aleph-null. The reason for that is that you are using the Hebrew letter, which is right-to-left and makes the neutral subscript zero character rendered right-to-left as well. So instead of =D7=90 U+05D0 HEBR= EW LETTER ALEF, you need the identical-looking but left-to-right character =E2= =84=B5 U+2113 ALEF SYMBOL, which will give you =E2=84=B5=E2=82=80. --0000000000002639fc05ddde7e1f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Apr 30, 2= 022 at 3:53 AM Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:

accompanied by a note that Lang isn't =D7=90=E2=82=80.

Note that on correct=C2=A0U= nicode renderers this is being shown as null-aleph instead of aleph-null.= =C2=A0 The reason for that is that you are using the Hebrew letter, which i= s right-to-left and makes the neutral subscript zero character rendered=C2=A0right-to-left as well.=C2=A0 So instead of=C2= =A0=D7=90 U+05D0 HEBREW LETTER ALEF, you need the identical-looking but lef= t-to-right character=C2=A0=E2=84=B5 U+2113 ALEF SYMBOL, which will give you= =E2=84=B5=E2=82=80.
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