From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26040 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2022 22:48:41 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Dec 2022 22:48:41 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F942412; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 08:48:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f44.google.com (mail-vs1-f44.google.com [209.85.217.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D2E742411 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 08:48:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 3so9572390vsq.7 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:48:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bucjo4SK2dHonBO59UoPL/kqtz6gV5VMvTneXNtDYkk=; b=lIAl48ZpYPvFk2tgZqB7uUhuVF4pdSzFBKUODcFUiTjLEHKR9uW7gCqrnbx5NPXdQg ewzbsUCAlp4z1hnFhNDlfd6DWUc7FlbtZrgzcfT1kx4voqnHHXuBcmhAa9zCsjNFdiVm bc3YsiSNIP00UTnOadAvk4oollajkEZCTi8Gznr99kCacZegNMC/egt6fQhdIuR+0EM8 CqkZMtTlITNiQ3XVz+Y5uBEo7V2lCrbBKWUg3TWBpFhdQSeH4zb96BmZPmWswl2pb78I RV9btLIN561r481muepsDbs3in8/j+QoqYyJI6zW4iO7SfN969gc9PMgLSPWI1r4aTti t+qA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=bucjo4SK2dHonBO59UoPL/kqtz6gV5VMvTneXNtDYkk=; b=0+cbsu2nCWQBRO5wySgaktXdGGkSxVjXvjlrprithdyLz65h2WWHw1z5mftcddbUBi cNEzlqIhUUP6re9B0abA8Y53OvHYMTk4r32IOLZ7sLcdMN0ib9V6HBMBCNz9xz+xW9s7 GqZmP4lbrl2dnwd7tNP2D3wB5Zsv/bp86zq4IWD+GI4Hn96zrNodmxMfHCj/MXWA3g5k e4qj0FrI6IHzw/QXlsxgkB48A0ilCuqu3lS5/ENMreau08eEi4ajkXhPXMrt6c6PBGsQ VyI95fzj9bfcIFXK4QWhignXzEc1nRuxAmEiBA/hHr7T4agwz2kR4Uj2R6CT1xaxXRvi H3YQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnDBDgLtV7T+5AEg+uagIxAgGcJ6RoPe/ECqKbrRq8PfrDUgGed SAJPim0w07ziCq5sfYo8H26uuiosBv9ggO75kemfNA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4kCWRfwuVke8S+UQSMheeZi/8h4Es2LPIE19wf+lkLxeYYAMb3rM1XLyxKTgk2fzpYMzwjcjqyrfXYj5uO5P8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:161e:b0:3b0:8d80:6faf with SMTP id cu30-20020a056102161e00b003b08d806fafmr32773185vsb.25.1670798850456; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 14:47:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: John Cowan Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 17:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: To: Marc Donner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f9166c05ef952b9a" Message-ID-Hash: EXQEA5D5SKG34B5R763TNFFFGTI6X5GT X-Message-ID-Hash: EXQEA5D5SKG34B5R763TNFFFGTI6X5GT X-MailFrom: cowan@ccil.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Bringing a Chainsaw List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000f9166c05ef952b9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks again! I'll pass this on to Eric Raymond, current maintainer of the Jargon File. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:24 PM Marc Donner wrote: > I heard from Mike Cowlishaw about the IBM jargon items "branch to > Fishkill" and "branch to Owego" > > They reflect a set of site pairs within IBM in which one site designed and > made hardware (Fishkill, Owego) and another site designs and builds > software (Kingston, Endicott). To the software folks the hardware world > was esoteric and weird, hence the branch targets for weirdness were the > hardware sites. > ===== > nygeek.net > mindthegapdialogs.com/home > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:15 PM Marc Donner > wrote: > >> Mike is an old friend ... I will send him a copy of "Bringing a Chainsaw" >> and ask ... I don't think he was in Yorktown at the time but I probably >> told him about the work while it was happening. >> ===== >> nygeek.net >> mindthegapdialogs.com/home >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:56 AM Adam Sampson wrote: >> >>> John Cowan writes: >>> >>> > Some editions of the Jargon File contain an entry for _branch to >>> > Fishkill_, defined as "Any unexpected jump in a program that produces >>> > catastrophic or just plain weird results" and attributed to IBM. >>> >>> Mike Cowlishaw's IBM Jargon and General Computing Dictionary, Tenth >>> Edition was probably the source for >>> this -- it includes both "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to Owego" with >>> exactly this definition. >>> >>> -- >>> Adam Sampson >>> >> --000000000000f9166c05ef952b9a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks again!=C2=A0 I'll pass this on to= Eric Raymond, current maintainer of the Jargon File.

On Sun, Dec 11, = 2022 at 5:24 PM Marc Donner <ma= rc.donner@gmail.com> wrote:
I heard from Mike Cowlishaw = about the IBM jargon items "branch to Fishkill" and "branch = to Owego"

They reflect a set of s= ite pairs within IBM in which one site designed and made hardware (Fishkill= , Owego) and another site designs and builds software (Kingston, Endicott).= =C2=A0 To the software folks the hardware world was esoteric and weird, hen= ce the branch targets for weirdness were the hardware sites.


On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:15 PM Marc Donn= er <marc.donn= er@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike is an old friend ... I will se= nd him a copy of "Bringing a Chainsaw" and ask ... I don't th= ink he was in Yorktown at the time but I probably told him about the work w= hile it was happening.


On Sa= t, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:56 AM Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> wrote:
John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> writes:

> Some editions of the Jargon File contain an entry for _branch to
> Fishkill_, defined as "Any unexpected jump in a program that prod= uces
> catastrophic or just plain weird results" and attributed to IBM.<= br>
Mike Cowlishaw's IBM Jargon and General Computing Dictionary, Tenth
Edition <http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf> was probably = the source for
this -- it includes both "branch to Fishkill" and "branch to= Owego" with
exactly this definition.

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