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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
@ 2020-09-10 14:13 Nelson H. F. Beebe
  2020-09-10 16:02 ` Clem Cole
  2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Nelson H. F. Beebe @ 2020-09-10 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
(August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.

There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:

	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
	UNIX: Genesis and design features
	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x

	K. Bhaskar
	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9

I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
library, so I have not seen the articles.

In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:

	Donald Arthur Norman
	The Truth about UNIX
	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq

The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
searchable text.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254                  -
- University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148                  -
- Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu  -
- 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org -
- Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 14:13 [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984 Nelson H. F. Beebe
@ 2020-09-10 16:02 ` Clem Cole
  2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2020-09-10 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nelson H. F. Beebe; +Cc: TUHS main list

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First Warren - thanks for the refresh.   Both Dennis and Ken's
Turing lectures should be required (re)reading to remind us all on some of
the important lessons and gifts the system gave us, besides the
technologies themselves.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:30 AM Nelson H. F. Beebe <beebe@math.utah.edu>
wrote:

>
> In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
> did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
>
Thanks.  I remember that paper and the argument at the time (also a fun
re-read).

I remember that from those days and I do admit that when I too first
encountered UNIX in the early/mid 70s, like Prof. Norman describes, UNIX
did seem a little 'different' from my then comfort zones of the PDP-8 and
PDP-10 worlds, much less the IBM/360 and TSS.  In my first encounters, I
certainly felt some of the things Prof. Norman and others in those days
would describe.  But what I find fascinating about this paper is that the
complaints about UNIX described there by Norman and by others at the time
also, now are used to describe Linux - that is, the observations
(complaints) are unchanged in 50 years.

So I realize that you either "get it" or you don't.   You can be educated
and overcome bias by keeping an open mind if you come from some other
system (somewhere else), or you don't find it strange if you are new to
computers - i.e. accept it as is [like Lesk describes in the side bar].
 Put another way, as I used to say in those days to people that were seeing
UNIX for the first time, the learning curve was different and could be
longer >>if<< you come in with *expectations from some other system*.  But
if you had never seen or used a computer before it was not that difficult. What
is 'normal' behavior for you -- such as the case-folding or C:mumble in
filename conventions?

I think that Norman's complaint is really the 'baby duck' syndrome at its
highest level (vi vs emacs, LISP vs anything else, *etc*.).  Once a person
working with a new system learns to use and *appreciate a feature* (like
typing only a few characters for as 'ls' instead of dir<tab>, having to
have case independence, or not having to device the storage device in a
filename) UNIX or the like is not so strange, becomes comfortable,  if not
desirable.

In fact, just yesterday, I was trying to reconfigure a used Cisco switch I
had picked up to use at home.   I would have loved to have been able to
type: 'dir' much less, 'ls' instead of: show file information flash:? which
I suspect some IT person that uses Cisco gear does not find strange.

I also think Dennis's comments about Xerox's GUIs are interesting BTW.  The
BLiT that Rob, Bart, and friends were working, was just making the scene
around the time of this paper and certainly, GUI's were becoming all the
range and would make their mark as Dennis suggests.  But, I also think
it's interesting that 36 years after his paper GUIs did not wholesale
replace CLI's.   Not because people are stubborn, as much as people
discovered what each gives you (and thus I use both -- I run the Apple GUI
for simple things, but there are always 3-5 'iterm2' windows open with a
(shutter) C-Shell prompt in each [the later cause the ROMs in my fingers
are burned to the old UNIX maxim: *'Bourne to Program, but Type with Joy.'*

Anyway, thank you both for a refreshing reread and reminder during these
bizarre times that some things in our world remain constant.  People like
what they like, and as Paul Simon reminded us years ago: "*One man's
ceiling, is another man's floor.*"

Clem

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 14:13 [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984 Nelson H. F. Beebe
  2020-09-10 16:02 ` Clem Cole
@ 2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
  2020-09-10 16:45   ` Larry McVoy
  2020-09-11  9:40   ` Thomas Paulsen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Edouard Klein @ 2020-09-10 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

PDFS:
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9

Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance to
advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub
is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
letter of the law, don't follow these links.

Cheers,

Edouard.

Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:

> Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
> the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
> reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
> DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
> (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
>
> There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:
>
> 	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
> 	UNIX: Genesis and design features
> 	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
>
> 	K. Bhaskar
> 	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
> 	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>
> I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
> library, so I have not seen the articles.
>
> In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
> did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
>
> 	Donald Arthur Norman
> 	The Truth about UNIX
> 	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
> 	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
>
> The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
> PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
> searchable text.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254                  -
> - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148                  -
> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu  -
> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org -
> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
@ 2020-09-10 16:45   ` Larry McVoy
  2020-09-10 20:27     ` Clem Cole
  2020-09-11  9:40   ` Thomas Paulsen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2020-09-10 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Edouard Klein; +Cc: tuhs

I hate the paywalls as well.  Personally, if I've written something and
someone wants it, I just give it to them.  Most decent authors I've 
encountered do the same.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Edouard Klein wrote:
> PDFS:
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
> 
> Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance to
> advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub
> is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
> letter of the law, don't follow these links.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Edouard.
> 
> Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:
> 
> > Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
> > the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
> > reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
> > DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
> > (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
> >
> > There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:
> >
> > 	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
> > 	UNIX: Genesis and design features
> > 	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
> > 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> >
> > 	K. Bhaskar
> > 	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
> > 	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
> > 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
> >
> > I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
> > library, so I have not seen the articles.
> >
> > In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
> > did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
> >
> > 	Donald Arthur Norman
> > 	The Truth about UNIX
> > 	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
> > 	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
> >
> > The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
> > PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
> > searchable text.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254                  -
> > - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148                  -
> > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu  -
> > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org -
> > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
---
Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 16:45   ` Larry McVoy
@ 2020-09-10 20:27     ` Clem Cole
  2020-09-10 20:35       ` Jon Steinhart
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2020-09-10 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Larry McVoy; +Cc: TUHS main list

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One of the things I am most proud of as a Board Member and USENIX President
was going free access during my time. It was bold and scary, but the right
thing to do.    Too bad, IEEE and ACM don't have the same values.   A
paywall is an invisible revenue stream and makes it easy for them to
'provide value,' *but they do it one other people's work*.  Back when
publishing was a more expensive thing for them to do, it made *some*
sense.  But it should have been a zero-sum/at-cost game.  When it became
the primary revenue stream for those organizations, is when they fell from
grace.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:46 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

> I hate the paywalls as well.  Personally, if I've written something and
> someone wants it, I just give it to them.  Most decent authors I've
> encountered do the same.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Edouard Klein wrote:
> > PDFS:
> > https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> > https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
> >
> > Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance
> to
> > advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub
> > is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
> > letter of the law, don't follow these links.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Edouard.
> >
> > Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:
> >
> > > Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
> > > the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
> > > reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
> > > DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
> > > (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
> > >
> > > There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:
> > >
> > >     Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt
> > >     UNIX: Genesis and design features
> > >     Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
> > >     doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> > >
> > >     K. Bhaskar
> > >     C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
> > >     Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
> > >     doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
> > >
> > > I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
> > > library, so I have not seen the articles.
> > >
> > > In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
> > > did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
> > >
> > >     Donald Arthur Norman
> > >     The Truth about UNIX
> > >     Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
> > >     https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
> > >
> > > The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
> > > PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
> > > searchable text.
> > >
> > >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
>         -
> > > - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
>         -
> > > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail:
> beebe@math.utah.edu  -
> > > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org
> beebe@computer.org -
> > > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL:
> http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
> > >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy                  lm at mcvoy.com
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
>

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 20:27     ` Clem Cole
@ 2020-09-10 20:35       ` Jon Steinhart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Jon Steinhart @ 2020-09-10 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS main list

Clem Cole writes:
>
> One of the things I am most proud of as a Board Member and USENIX President
> was going free access during my time. It was bold and scary, but the right
> thing to do.    Too bad, IEEE and ACM don't have the same values.   A
> paywall is an invisible revenue stream and makes it easy for them to
> 'provide value,' *but they do it one other people's work*.  Back when
> publishing was a more expensive thing for them to do, it made *some*
> sense.  But it should have been a zero-sum/at-cost game.  When it became
> the primary revenue stream for those organizations, is when they fell from
> grace.

I completely agree; I asked both ACM and IEEE if I could at least have access
to their libraries for stuff that I had already paid for and had on paper but
they said no so I dropped my memberships.

Along those lines and in the archeology department, I have boxes of ACM and
IEEE pubs from the maybe 1982-2010 timeframe that are about to get recycled
so if anybody wants 'em, let me know.

Jon

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10 16:04 ` Edouard Klein
  2020-09-10 16:45   ` Larry McVoy
@ 2020-09-11  9:40   ` Thomas Paulsen
  2020-09-11 10:52     ` Edouard Klein
  2020-09-11 18:52     ` John Cowan
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Paulsen @ 2020-09-11  9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Edouard Klein; +Cc: tuhs

Sorry: Server not found

Waterfox can’t find the server at sci-hub.tw.


--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---

PDFS:
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9

Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance to

advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub

is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
letter of the law, don't follow these links.

Cheers,

Edouard.

Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:

> Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of

> the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was

> reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no

> DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816

> (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
>
> There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:

>
> 	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
> 	UNIX: Genesis and design features
> 	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
>
> 	K. Bhaskar
> 	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
> 	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>
> I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
> library, so I have not seen the articles.
>
> In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I

> did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
>
> 	Donald Arthur Norman
> 	The Truth about UNIX
> 	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
> 	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
>
> The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable

> PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
> searchable text.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
          -
> - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
          -
> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu
 -
> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org
-
> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/
-
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------






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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-11  9:40   ` Thomas Paulsen
@ 2020-09-11 10:52     ` Edouard Klein
  2020-09-12 11:29       ` Thomas Paulsen
  2020-09-11 18:52     ` John Cowan
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Edouard Klein @ 2020-09-11 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Paulsen; +Cc: tuhs

sci-hub is often blocked by ISPs. To go around DNS blocking just:

echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 > /etc/resolv.conf  # Make a backup first

if they block by IP, use a VPN or the TOR browser
(https://www.torproject.org/download/)

Firefox' dns over https may often work as well.

Cheers,

Edouard.
Thomas Paulsen writes:

> Sorry: Server not found
>
> Waterfox can’t find the server at sci-hub.tw.
>
>
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>
> PDFS:
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>
> Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance to
>
> advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub
>
> is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
> letter of the law, don't follow these links.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Edouard.
>
> Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:
>
>> Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
>
>> the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
>
>> reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
>
>> DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
>
>> (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
>>
>> There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:
>
>>
>> 	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
>> 	UNIX: Genesis and design features
>> 	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
>> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
>>
>> 	K. Bhaskar
>> 	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
>> 	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
>> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>>
>> I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
>> library, so I have not seen the articles.
>>
>> In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
>
>> did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
>>
>> 	Donald Arthur Norman
>> 	The Truth about UNIX
>> 	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
>> 	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
>>
>> The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
>
>> PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
>> searchable text.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
>           -
>> - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
>           -
>> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu
>  -
>> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org
> -
>> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/
> -
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-11  9:40   ` Thomas Paulsen
  2020-09-11 10:52     ` Edouard Klein
@ 2020-09-11 18:52     ` John Cowan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: John Cowan @ 2020-09-11 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Paulsen; +Cc: TUHS main list

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<https://sci-hub.now.sh/> gives the latest domain names (failing that,
google for [sci-hub latest domain] or such.  Currently .go, .st, .tw, .se,
.si are working for me.  Try  them and see.

Information wants to be free, but _rentiers_ want to be paid for nothing.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:11 AM Thomas Paulsen <thomas.paulsen@firemail.de>
wrote:

> Sorry: Server not found
>
> Waterfox can’t find the server at sci-hub.tw.
>
>
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>
> PDFS:
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>
> Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance to
>
> advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci hub
>
> is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the
> letter of the law, don't follow these links.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Edouard.
>
> Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:
>
> > Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications of
>
> > the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207 was
>
> > reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985) [no
>
> > DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816
>
> > (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
> >
> > There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:
>
> >
> >       Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt
> >       UNIX: Genesis and design features
> >       Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
> >       doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> >
> >       K. Bhaskar
> >       C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
> >       Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
> >       doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
> >
> > I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
> > library, so I have not seen the articles.
> >
> > In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that I
>
> > did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
> >
> >       Donald Arthur Norman
> >       The Truth about UNIX
> >       Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
> >       https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
> >
> > The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable
>
> > PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has
> > searchable text.
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
>           -
> > - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
>           -
> > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail:
> beebe@math.utah.edu
>  -
> > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org
> beebe@computer.org
> -
> > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL:
> http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/
> -
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-11 10:52     ` Edouard Klein
@ 2020-09-12 11:29       ` Thomas Paulsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Paulsen @ 2020-09-12 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Edouard Klein; +Cc: tuhs

>sci-hub is often blocked by ISPs. To go around DNS blocking just:
>echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 > /etc/resolv.conf  # Make a backup first
>if they block by IP, use a VPN or the TOR browser
>(https://www.torproject.org/download/)
>Firefox' dns over https may often work as well.

that's it. Just checked out my tor browser and it works out-of-the-box. Thanks a lot Edouard!

Thomas Paulsen writes:

> Sorry: Server not found
>
> Waterfox can’t find the server at sci-hub.tw.
>
>
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>
> PDFS:
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
> https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>
> Paywalls where the money goes to people who did nothing of significance
to
>
> advance the published works are the bane of scientific research. Sci
hub
>
> is a useful crutch until we fix this mess. If you want to follow the

> letter of the law, don't follow these links.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Edouard.
>
> Nelson H. F. Beebe writes:
>
>> Dennis Ritchie's ACM Turing Award lecture paper in Communications
of
>
>> the ACM 27(8) 758--760 (August 1984), doi:10.1145/358198.358207
was
>
>> reprinted in UNIX Review 3(1) 28, 118--120, 122, (January 1985)
[no
>
>> DOI or URL yet found], and more recently, in Resonance 17(8) 810--816

>
>> (August 2012) doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0091-y.
>>
>> There are two other UNIX-related papers in that issue of Resonance:

>
>>
>> 	Pramod Chandra P. Bhatt 
>> 	UNIX: Genesis and design features
>> 	Resonance 17(8) 727--747 (August 2012)
>> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0084-x
>>
>> 	K. Bhaskar
>> 	C --- Past, present, and future --- A perspective
>> 	Resonance 17(8) 748--758 (August 2012)
>> 	doi:10.1007/s12045-012-0085-9
>>
>> I do not have access to that journal's archives from my campus
>> library, so I have not seen the articles.
>>
>> In his paper, Dennis Ritchie referred to another UNIX article that
I
>
>> did manage to track down and record in unix.bib:
>>
>> 	Donald Arthur Norman
>> 	The Truth about UNIX
>> 	Datamation 27(12) 139--150 (November 1981)
>> 	https://tinyurl.com/yyselmxq
>>
>> The original URL is 200+ characters long, and is a freely-downloadable

>
>> PDF of a reprint in AUUGN volume IV number I.  The PDF file has

>> searchable text.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>> - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
>           -
>> - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
>           -
>> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu

>  -
>> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe@acm.org  beebe@computer.org

> -
>> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/

> -
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------






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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-10  0:24 ` Richard Salz
@ 2020-09-10  6:18   ` arnold
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: arnold @ 2020-09-10  6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: wkt, rich.salz; +Cc: tuhs

Um, "companion paper" maybe? :-)

Richard Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:

> The comparison paper to Thompsons "Reflections on Trusting Trust",
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/358198.358210
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 7:12 PM Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
> > "Reflections on Software Research"
> > https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/1283920.1283939?download=true
> >
> > Happy birthday, Dennis!
> >         Warren
> >

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-09 23:10 Warren Toomey
  2020-09-10  0:24 ` Richard Salz
@ 2020-09-10  1:43 ` Dave Horsfall
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Dave Horsfall @ 2020-09-10  1:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, Warren Toomey wrote:

> "Reflections on Software Research"
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/1283920.1283939?download=true

Ooh - I found a typo in it :-)  Towards the end: "I guess the tree of 
research must from time to time by [sic] refreshed with the blood of bean 
counters."

(And yes, I'm familiar with the reference)

-- Dave

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* Re: [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
  2020-09-09 23:10 Warren Toomey
@ 2020-09-10  0:24 ` Richard Salz
  2020-09-10  6:18   ` arnold
  2020-09-10  1:43 ` Dave Horsfall
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Salz @ 2020-09-10  0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Warren Toomey; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society

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The comparison paper to Thompsons "Reflections on Trusting Trust",
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/358198.358210

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 7:12 PM Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> wrote:

> "Reflections on Software Research"
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/1283920.1283939?download=true
>
> Happy birthday, Dennis!
>         Warren
>

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* [TUHS] A Paper by dmr in 1984
@ 2020-09-09 23:10 Warren Toomey
  2020-09-10  0:24 ` Richard Salz
  2020-09-10  1:43 ` Dave Horsfall
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Warren Toomey @ 2020-09-09 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

"Reflections on Software Research"
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/1283920.1283939?download=true

Happy birthday, Dennis!
	Warren

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