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From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] One's complement (was: reviving a bit of WWB)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 21:39:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD2gp_TqMB84uP75jbgeTsc1mgwZb_mcCoMbUKfogF909xas6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfpFVWBbexxM2LmO13DGf2BsHKqCTiJig0tZgXqPitHjWQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:22 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

Don't know about the others, but I'm pretty sure PDP-10 wasn't 1's
>> compliment / was 2's compliment..
>
>
Correct.  The PDP-1 (18 bits) was DEC's 1's complement machine.  Its direct
successors the 4/7/9/15 had both 1's and 2's complement arithmetic.  The
12-bit 5/8/12 machines had only 2's complement, but retained the PDP-4
mnemonic TAD (Two's-complement Add).  By the time the 36-bit 6/10/20 line
was designed, it was clear that 1's complement was history, and the
mnemonic was changed to ADD.

(The PDP-3 was a PDP-1 with a 36-bit data path, and only one ever went into
production; the PDP-2 was to be a 24-bit machine, perhaps a compromise
between 6-bit and 8-bit byte systems, but was never even designed.)



John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        cowan@ccil.org
I marvel at the creature: so secret and so sly as he is, to come sporting
in the pool before our very window.  Does he think that Men sleep without
watch all night?    --Faramir

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-25  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19  1:51 [TUHS] reviving a bit of WWB Doug McIlroy
2020-09-20 18:42 ` arnold
2020-09-20 19:28   ` Will Senn
2020-09-20 20:12     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-09-20 20:26       ` Doug McIlroy
2020-09-20 20:57         ` Doug McIlroy
2020-09-20 22:13           ` Clem Cole
2020-09-21 20:43             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-09-20 20:58         ` Steve Nickolas
2020-09-20 21:33           ` Brantley Coile
2020-10-07  5:43             ` scj
2020-09-20 21:35           ` John Cowan
2021-02-02 23:08             ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-02 23:47               ` Larry McVoy
2021-02-03  0:11                 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-03  0:19                   ` Larry McVoy
2021-02-03  2:04                     ` Richard Salz
2021-02-03  3:32                       ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-03  4:32                         ` M Douglas McIlroy
2021-02-03 11:27                           ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2021-02-03 20:09                             ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-03 20:13                               ` Niklas Karlsson
2021-02-03 23:46                               ` Tom Lyon
2021-02-03 22:19                           ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-03 22:55                             ` M Douglas McIlroy
2020-09-20 22:15           ` Clem Cole
2020-09-20 22:47             ` John Cowan
2020-09-21 20:48               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-09-21 20:46           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-09-24  2:25       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-09-24  2:33         ` Clem Cole
2020-09-25  0:18           ` [TUHS] One's complement (was: reviving a bit of WWB) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-09-25  0:22             ` Warner Losh
2020-09-25  1:39               ` John Cowan [this message]
2020-09-27  5:54           ` [TUHS] reviving a bit of WWB Dave Horsfall
2020-09-24 17:19         ` Paul Winalski
2020-09-24 18:17           ` John Cowan
2020-10-07  5:47   ` scj
2020-10-07  9:20     ` arnold
2020-10-08  0:27     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-10-08  3:08       ` John Cowan
2020-09-25 15:21 [TUHS] One's complement (was: reviving a bit of WWB) Noel Chiappa
2020-09-25 15:30 ` Warner Losh
2020-09-25 16:10   ` Ronald Natalie

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