From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id da613224 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 23:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4840A9B91A; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:45:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638C19B8FA; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:45:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="lSJmAlLm"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C01C09B8FA; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:45:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f50.google.com (mail-wm1-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21C3C9B8F9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:45:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f50.google.com with SMTP id y185so5419418wmd.1 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:45:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VnPdRQME9S3H4dxUiiyeMEp022AOMap175wHlYyGLAI=; b=lSJmAlLmmB20cIWGM7cphcEddb7JBz5KN456+dFwaIb7FRBfp9J5FPgxmSIdTDPd43 mbtLbkvZhozs/1Yl//AEH+b5nwgZb+B2RK/baBJ4lDW7A+DarfbcQ+dNuh0w9W44C4kZ AvBjAbgtpx5dIc+yiLhMaOYQZlMd5Qc2b9tMMymRjNg8vC279I+kCl/vaNaqqlEawQKa CaALQJyYNmtEaCGUbOneK7VTl7ZIJDttZZWVrUI6bV+SkVC2c/UcrYMyziCeKKwsLPhO rbKdPi+h2oWLJBz7yBiAgO7i0b8XcZlrgTtJWCGgUyGSy/o+lk71/HmtDcjsTsmae7hf O5rA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VnPdRQME9S3H4dxUiiyeMEp022AOMap175wHlYyGLAI=; b=qjRKr4txRSE7B9nudSnsdRqWIBcxuO8oQbDKL7m2Znf4NLnuEHuXKFFVRVc/IbPXVZ YiHWGg2aom0HvaFovSOABtS9tG8mDQiAqwv7DANlqjvqjFd3ugJoUXJg4Tw4qBizHHrI L3cIJcZ0TZoGoltil5ElmxzgwSJ+DBVSLSnu75Lseuia105ejw/cwHYApYqgcG6ICqNK fY9j5NqmGd8R6dYjPyHyQs2S/Sfr2xSByIEA6129k79UzuChUkAyJGHFKJoFHIdqxiYf vp/omWie4Sa21mMPhuDRkBd+me5RmsU6C00OA4ct5o5qub3PWD60YCgtpUnZEprABTDd qmuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAubgFsAM2ReYP8vUKVYJghf5YzRoHu7pz5aC5EqmKQLEA2vdwWve oxe2X0g1Ye2upsmGicqFQK1/aYJyZ0ppaaoXrkBoqw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Ia56d6k/qAbzebu0bcQl/sYw3V7X6TCeI/h+eZ/4EC/fKlXw1jNesDQ914Y86m5Ixu9gLFY22Yh7ja+t+iKKwc= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7903:: with SMTP id l3mr4682420wme.22.1550187921539; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:45:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190214192940.ED58418C0AB@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <1b71e45e-5711-ee8d-2bc8-4ea6298311dd@solar.stanford.edu> <201902142037.x1EKbpnR017241@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <33ce5850-f0b5-1fa9-d459-58d4e2416e80@telegraphics.com.au> In-Reply-To: From: Thomas Kellar Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:45:06 -0500 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Women in computing X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I am learning from the discussion. I disagree with the binary argument. Women and men both have personalities and brains that range over a huge spectrum of differences. It is society that tries to force them into particular molds. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 6:36 PM Andy Kosela wrote: > > > > Is this thread really a good place for TUHS discussion? Maybe COFF woul= d be better suited for it. > > And maybe the explanation why there are more men in IT is simpler than so= me folks who forcefully try to create elaborate sociological theories think= . In nature males are just wired differently from females. And that is wh= y they ARE different, like 1 and 0. Otherwise they would be just one sex. = And as we know nothing can come from just one number... > > --Andy