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From: Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com>
To: "Charles H. Sauer" <sauer@technologists.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Abstractions
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 16:15:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdTPBc-warK9hZxzTg8Shm4uM8+9oN2NmiurT1WWhohZM0yBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91696417-3233-232e-e1f4-3cb914202801@technologists.com>

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On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 16:03, Charles H. Sauer <sauer@technologists.com>
wrote:

> To add to the inventory below:
> Dell SVR4 /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin
> NEXTSTEP/486 3.3 /bin and /usr/bin are separate
>
> On 2/23/2021 1:37 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
> > The recent discussions on the TUHS list of whether /bin and /usr/bin
> > are different, or symlinked, brought to mind the limited disk and tape
> > sizes of the 1970s and 1980s.  Especially the lower-cost tape
> > technologies had issues with correct recognition of an end-of-tape
> > condition, making it hard to span a dump across tape volumes, and
> > strongly suggesting that directory tree sizes be limited to what could
> > fit on a single tape.
> >
> > I made an experiment today across a broad range of operating systems
> > (many with multiple versions in our test farm), and produced these two
> > tables, where version numbers are included only if the O/S changed
> > practices:
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Systems with /bin a symlink to /usr/bin (or both to yet another common
> > directory) [42 major variants]:
> >
> >       ArchLinux               Kali                    RedHat 8
> >       Arco                    Kubuntu 19, 20          Q4OS
> >       Bitrig                  Lite                    ScientificLinux 7
> >       CentOS 7, 8             Lubuntu 19              Septor
> >       ClearLinux              Mabox                   Solaris 10, 11
> >       Debian 10, 11           Magiea                  Solydk
> >       Deepin                  Manjaro                 Sparky
> >       DilOS                   Mint 20                 Springdale
> >       Dyson                   MXLinux 19              Ubuntu 19, 20, 21
> >       Fedora                  Neptune                 UCS
> >       Gnuinos                 Netrunner               Ultimate
> >       Gobolinux               Oracle Linux            Unleashed
> >       Hefftor                 Parrot 4.7              Void
> >       IRIX                    PureOS                  Xubuntu 19, 20
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Systems with separate /bin and /usr/bin [60 major variants]:
> >
> >       Alpine                  Hipster                 OS108
> >       AltLinux                KaOS                    Ovios
> >       Antix                   KFreeBSD                PacBSD
> >       Bitrig                  Kubuntu 18              Parrot 4.5
> >       Bodhi                   LibertyBSD              PCBSD
> >       CentOS 5, 6             LMDE                    PCLinuxOS
> >       ClonOS                  Lubuntu 17              Peppermint
> >       Debian 7--10            LXLE                    Salix
> >       DesktopBSD              macOS                   ScientificLinux 6
> >       Devuan                  MidnightBSD             SlackEX
> >       DragonFlyBSD            Mint 18--20             Slackware
> >       ElementaryOS            MirBSD                  Solus
> >       FreeBSD 9--13           MXLinux 17, 18          T2
> >       FuryBSD                 NetBSD 6-1010           Trident
> >       Gecko                   NomadBSD                Trisquel
> >       Gentoo                  OmniOS                  TrueOS
> >       GhostBSD                OmniTribblix            Ubuntu 14--18
> >       GNU/Hurd                OpenBSD                 Xubuntu 18
> >       HardenedBSD             OpenMandriva            Zenwalk
> >       Helium                  openSUSE                Zorinos
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Some names appear in both tables, indicating a transition from
> > separate directories to symlinked directories in more recent O/S
> > releases.
> >
> > Many of these system names are spelled in mixed lettercase, and if
> > I've botched some of them, I extend my apologies to their authors.
> >
> > Some of those systems run on multiple CPU architectures, and our test
> > farm exploits that; however, I found no instance of the CPU type
> > changing the separation or symbolic linking of /bin and /usr/bin.
> >
>
>
Solaris /bin was a symlink to /usr/bin as early as 2.5.1.  It's also worth
pointing out that NetBSD, in addition to having a separate /bin and
/usr/bin, has /rescue which has a large selection of statically linked
binaries.

-Henry

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-23 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-23 19:37 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-02-23 21:02 ` Charles H. Sauer
2021-02-23 21:15   ` Henry Bent [this message]
2021-02-24  2:47     ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24  3:20       ` Warner Losh
2021-02-24 20:05         ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24  1:51 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-24  2:23   ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-02-24  4:18 Rudi Blom
2021-02-21 10:47 Paul Ruizendaal
2021-02-20 23:09 M Douglas McIlroy
2021-02-21  8:15 ` Otto Moerbeek
2021-02-21 11:08 ` Rich Morin
2021-02-21 22:40 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-21 23:01   ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-23  3:31     ` Andrew Warkentin
2021-02-22  0:13   ` Warren Toomey
2021-02-27  2:47     ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-23  0:25   ` Wesley Parish
2021-02-23  0:38     ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-23  2:50       ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-23  3:19         ` Warner Losh
2021-02-23  1:47     ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-21 22:54 ` Clem Cole
2021-02-15 19:56 Jon Steinhart
2021-02-15 21:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-16  7:13   ` arnold
2021-02-16  8:15 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2021-02-16 10:04   ` Wesley Parish
2021-02-16 19:59   ` Jon Steinhart
2021-02-17  4:01     ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-17  6:50     ` Chris Hanson
2021-02-16 12:26 ` Rich Morin
2021-02-16 22:46 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-02-17 12:09 ` David Arnold

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