From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 6cfa587c for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 18:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 06500A1F0F; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 04:29:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE040A1F04; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 04:29:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 80528A1F07; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 04:26:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com (mail-ot1-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6322A1F01 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 04:26:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 32so19516386ota.12 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 10:26:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vPdSGAabqLyI0N0tBr7Z8JmmL6Zz+21F0Bey/zlW+AE=; b=pycytzaf9lLqD5N6rfzKSwVeXzoAMqWq9tbKbnaLa85WKCH4dQmG9zBvLg4gF5pzu3 da2eUlNFy05LfALeg36BhtWw7zkkFHPeazTnY0TQqQP7B4a53S/YBlzU2KGgT18+WxfD tejtiLSkK1BAwooG431DMT4i4QfoRmHy5OZzUmO1RRO8n4wWALRHdQPxmj9AReKDWNdG XbeXPl1HQuHsybVubDQ2UPZEUzET5LabjlWsProSvysp/X1PXCbi/rS2OWyLV1icZiB4 tX9OU82iDdhpczDpo9P56mKaYxunkr4vtmIE8tHvvZGKVnZlLb+zpIqi9CM0ocD7h3Al GpKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=vPdSGAabqLyI0N0tBr7Z8JmmL6Zz+21F0Bey/zlW+AE=; b=cO3IdO1SSb1pyOZGzwhAknPrRHoUnuyKgJsImqBpUIaNqkTPH5lq6pGC0kNNHLbf2c 2I/ap4EuVAVHCG7IA8D7um2ZB4MFEpfbZ8y9r2q+ggRc+Idop1pH613i35Yf1xlk+x9r SiKt6mySuX1cAKTXifaRTv4OiW2PgNbJ1/G2eUx1cjMxIP30ui1Af643oUrqVTYIvic1 /UcnW2W6Dm6DFlL7UsnH9Tnblk76FvRmwS4sKt+/Rb+VMO2Vrg0HuqCKqNArSn6RHphW BQDAr0gan0rYRjtbjnIDORlWSLQHgREpRU1f+Xr0aFKZqSH3e8n12qZ/oh9tkMxBUoGQ +NRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZWRqhuAQpjj7vDugVz5qMlTxXrsXGjXfUN2/Dn/pdOorOyK0fK RvSgMowBXbWXwlnSo+oh3XcB+xL6gZmx0/rcVkLTHGZA X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XswQg4DQ/T1qkU3xaDeKiaOSxVLaSx12bczCVDdEN8+ORQtSijqOpCGV8QHosDbTqWbXmi4y9dbm9TV2k9Sy4= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6e06:: with SMTP id e6mr15550301otr.194.1544034385921; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Henry Bent Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:26:09 -0500 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000180b9e057c4a8594" Subject: Re: [TUHS] DEC compilers (was Happy birthday, John Backus!) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000180b9e057c4a8594 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 13:01, Clem Cole wrote: > I'm not sure which languages did eventually get supported and on which > versions of Ultrix. But once Paul's lk was released (and you can still > find it in /bin on the base Ultrix distributions), you did indeed see a > number of the languages move to Ultrix. I think for the Vax it was just > VAX/11C, Fortran and Pascal. I think Ultrix11 may have gotten Fortran, but > as I said; I don't remember. I do remember the TIG folks talking about a > PL/1 project and a proposal for Cobol and RP/G because some of the Wall > Street types wanted them, but I don't remember any of those getting > released (that said, I was also not watching things Vaxen by that time). > By the time I came back to Ultrix to do the MIPS 4000 stuff a few years > later, tech languages offerings were different and the GEM compilers had > come on the scene. > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/vax/ultrix-32/4.0_Jun90/AA-MG63B-TE_ULTRIX_Technical_Summary_Jun90.pdf seems to imply that as of Ultrix 4.0, there were COBOL and Ada compilers for the VAX (Table 4-1). Elsewhere VAX LISP for Ultrix is mentioned, which I had no idea existed. I hope that these compilers have been preserved somewhere, as I imagine they sold in relatively small quantities. -Henry --000000000000180b9e057c4a8594 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 13:01, Clem Cole &l= t;clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
I'm no= t sure which languages did eventually get supported and on which versions o= f Ultrix.=C2=A0 But once Paul's=C2=A0lk was released (and you can still= find it in /bin on the base Ultrix distributions), you did indeed see a nu= mber of the languages move to Ultrix.=C2=A0 I think for the Vax it was just= VAX/11C, Fortran and Pascal.=C2=A0 I think Ultrix11 may have gotten Fortra= n, but as I said; I don't remember.=C2=A0 I do remember the TIG folks t= alking about a PL/1 project and a proposal for Cobol and RP/G because some = of the Wall Street types wanted them, but I don't remember any of those= getting released (that said, I was also not watching things Vaxen by that = time).=C2=A0 =C2=A0By the time I came back to Ultrix to do the MIPS 4000 st= uff a few years later, tech languages offerings were different and the GEM = compilers had come on the scene.

http://bitsavers.trail= ing-edge.com/pdf/dec/vax/ultrix-32/4.0_Jun90/AA-MG63B-TE_ULTRIX_Technical_S= ummary_Jun90.pdf seems to imply that as of Ultrix 4.0, there were COBOL= and Ada compilers for the VAX (Table 4-1).=C2=A0 Elsewhere VAX LISP for Ul= trix is mentioned, which I had no idea existed.=C2=A0 I hope that these com= pilers have been preserved somewhere, as I imagine they sold in relatively = small quantities.

-Henry
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