From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29151 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2021 23:18:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Feb 2021 23:18:07 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D10AF9C9E4; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:18:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A989C21B; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:17:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ABzPWm5P"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7F16B9C21B; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:17:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f54.google.com (mail-ej1-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E764F9BA66 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 09:17:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f54.google.com with SMTP id i8so21783259ejc.7 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 15:17:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4muP3r7nqHMwoOvcfln97JgB5KFGiYEwrIlVQdZSe9c=; b=ABzPWm5PNYhnlMdk2NKa8Fk+qiYGdR1aBDZGT8bFXOcmGZ9xDB2EJ2gCLooiKRVrPX 99n/U1cX/UApEXIqKBixpnmgy3vRVRnSEjozaKr05CVSVrX1k8H6RQ300+vBy0JFdZYL 8HEpHoEh4CFU5TEhjTA+QL+0fDDSpU70Qy4ZZs6WtYAKSMSJL1LMUJLMoPjx26Qfykbd p+ZF1xuiXxI1T4cSzp/fLzdIP7nR+AaASDMHQ24qLx176BNiqVq0rMmcpapFn/ZtjF9v N8GPXoN+xH9MXMIuux9kRui9tbG++PbMBhfhwm3Q//6P5HjpjH2CY2GavG7ytOUa3w3l Cqbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4muP3r7nqHMwoOvcfln97JgB5KFGiYEwrIlVQdZSe9c=; b=odp4rH+zf929IZHXQww55/1tGx+7hNnQg5ZzldTQenJTjaeV5lfv7kewmk67xKPStN CMOQinHSDHMxU5WYiL+75nT2eE8tE+WuBmBvKfYh+PHdJFjdyF083HV5XZVC6LziSLyi 8obhsgYWfMmXhKwcQbSNb34PTv9aDne9ftuX72pH1DHlA18OtUDHMC1yL5sRx/UkROvJ xwM4ArR/6wKXZTIe9QzkHfelSwH4PdLmeJVXXgbp+yTKIrL2s520JBw/TmwFsL0ir6kr SjGlnhwTcGk3GGALSYktRYes8EkMJ4bpW0CUBrGyau3zNvEz7ZrAm2sown2BwA0Ppiey sYnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lZCsuwU5at+XDECATYO/gNUmC3DcP4nXCIxmCdF3V9rh3ZGif 9ytOFjBdHSNU0n5awa5XP5vAJ7fmhmb8USIbtKNUKw47 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxF5WXF0pWT/IaJHjhQyoehyoRhreC7jj6AuXvihXqBEegq5LutghSRp/WYgkCSj/DyuWQNrtGLadzk+Ux3irY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:dfce:: with SMTP id jt14mr14517644ejc.345.1612739860464; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 15:17:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5cb7edc8-7d43-aa3a-334f-18e17aa2fa16@gmail.com> <2ffbcab8-b651-c3f9-d4ed-e9ff792cfde6@mhorton.net> <1a7a35b7-4105-20b7-65ed-1eabb663d0ca@mhorton.net> <60205C88.6070808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60205C88.6070808@gmail.com> From: Henry Bent Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 18:17:27 -0500 Message-ID: To: Nemo Nusquam Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007f86b005bac7428b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Typing tutors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000007f86b005bac7428b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 16:34 Nemo Nusquam wrote: > On 07/02/2021 12:43, Mary Ann Horton wrote (in part): > > I hated it when the PC-AT came along and moved Ctrl down and Esc up! I > > depend on Ctrl being to the left of A and Esc left of 1, where God > > intended them to be! I used a Sun keyboard with a DIN adapter for > > years, until I came to SDG&E in 2007 and discovered a cache of USB Sun > > keyboards, half with the UNIX layout (yay!) and half with the PC > > layout (boo!) Word got around quickly that I liked them, and I wound > > up with several UNIX layout Sun keyboards. For good measure, I bought > > a 10-pack on eBay, so I'll have spares until the day they peel my cold > > dead fingers away from my UNIX layout keyboard. > My Sun UNIX layout keyboards (and mice) work quite well with my Macs. I > share your sentiments. > There was an early Apple ADB keyboard with control in the "right" place. I had two and I used them for many years with ADB to USB adapters until the keyboards became unreliable. drakaware.com makes a variety of keyboard adapters, including a Sun to USB if you just can't give up your Type 5 (or type 4!) -Henry > --0000000000007f86b005bac7428b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 16:34 Nemo Nusquam <cym224@gmail.com> wrote:
On 07/02/2021 12:43, Mary Ann Horton wrote (in part):
> I hated it when the PC-AT came along and moved Ctrl down and Esc up! I=
> depend on Ctrl being to the left of A and Esc left of 1, where God > intended them to be! I used a Sun keyboard with a DIN adapter for
> years, until I came to SDG&E in 2007 and discovered a cache of USB= Sun
> keyboards, half with the UNIX layout (yay!) and half with the PC
> layout (boo!) Word got around quickly that I liked them, and I wound <= br> > up with several UNIX layout Sun keyboards. For good measure, I bought =
> a 10-pack on eBay, so I'll have spares until the day they peel my = cold
> dead fingers away from my UNIX layout keyboard.
My Sun UNIX layout keyboards (and mice) work quite well with my Macs. I share your sentiments.

There was an early Apple ADB keyboard with control in= the "right" place. I had two and I used them for many years with= ADB to USB adapters until the keyboards became unreliable.

drak= aware.com makes a variety of keyboard adapters, including a Sun to USB = if you just can't give up your Type 5 (or type 4!)

-Henry
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