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From: Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com>
To: Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3 BSD network name resolution
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:08:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdTPBd1ABWgMWSs8dv_Uvtm4VKE-FWG6KnRz+pkmZj49HBpOQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdTPBdN9obvF7GNqwAMvFcEqJhTnrO80esN3HHZogGpMd39MA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 16:56, Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 16:49, Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm working through 4.3BSD setup and configuration and came across this:
>>
>>
>> "There is no equivalent service for network names yet. The full host and
>> network name databases are normally derived from a file retrieved from
>> Internet Network Information Center at SRI... use gettable to retrieve the
>> NIC host database and htable to convert it to the format used by the
>> libraries."
>>
>>
>> Does this mean I should expect functionality like resolv.conf and ping
>> yahoo.com not to work in 4.3, or by some miracle is gettable still a
>> functional system?
>>
>
> gettable uses flat files to map names to numbers.  It hasn't existed in
> probably 30+ years, and I can't even imagine how large the files it creates
> would be for the modern internet.
>
> Amusingly, for some strange reason it still exists in Solaris 11.2:
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36871/gettable-1m.html
>
>
A quick search found me a site with an archive of the HOSTS.TXT files that
gettable and friends used: https://emaillab.jp/dns/hosts/

To give you an idea of how soon things were obsolete, the files from the
'90s have 132.162.32.243 listed as Oberlin's VAX 11/780 ocvaxa, a machine
that had not existed for many years at that point.  The distributed nature
of DNS made things much, much easier to keep current.

-Henry

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-29 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-29 21:48 Will Senn
2022-01-29 21:56 ` Henry Bent
2022-01-29 22:08   ` Henry Bent [this message]
2022-01-29 23:02     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2022-01-29 22:13 ` Warner Losh
2022-01-29 22:25   ` George Michaelson
2022-01-29 22:35     ` Erik E. Fair
2022-01-29 22:59 ` Clem Cole
2022-01-29 23:24   ` Phil Budne
2022-01-30  0:09 ` Jeremy C. Reed

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