From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28052 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2022 21:56:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2022 21:56:55 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7B3549BB67; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:56:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCE89510A; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:56:41 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ZTKl7I74"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 67B5A9510A; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:56:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f179.google.com (mail-pl1-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD92795109 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:56:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f179.google.com with SMTP id d1so9230197plh.10 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:56:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=v2pTGF1BzfjiXn8ripQO6TC+WTkkhhB8HoSRutEg0+0=; b=ZTKl7I74sDd8dJoH58euhXUwDrUTm2VwQMpFLPsGrrG4acPBMcq/S64WP7wQWyIEWw JhrNLvnAsPOJx5d6+GFGughSdrBTQNTNHoBBobHLkDzI9REfvPhtOL/B0WVrAbWzSrAP sS7bqL39LxwxLJimGhQa4rKg2bMnZSX/CHrfNjmYO9OtL2ZMcUJimIEtU32hdQtCbPl3 6QYGwHo6Mv/9qcYX9yP+8FayRAgkaelOXEVLvGckLiOAtXkHjokZmLfRbyS6+qBxJ7Ll olhigKxgu9BA5X2QgT1S3SHb8x1/1cEDJABP926aq42WmOHywv30xykVZwgc7gTZJAfv i6fg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=v2pTGF1BzfjiXn8ripQO6TC+WTkkhhB8HoSRutEg0+0=; b=X0VbFBudCWRvOr/UxB8HzP9TLmTLBo4WfS37kkEr6fVlZWLat2EVQn7cC7dmnnY+Ax VuPpRJs80jV6ZhJ6/GyMcd+Qyedw3vhakT1AKSWyWUM7kWW28ZUPD5YS+UQZA/HPHw7+ PuSOku6EfFPnhQx7/8bCMFtHFPi58qjtI1VIoIB2s8NDA/sPvolge8NvLNcirgwufwDa zNGDGNirRInGARZse74RkxiXdur7eLvZmUvkQjM6epdpdr08qW6TLo5bF+9JFXNJk0wm kM6Q2TrmTF1WTCvfF+eFeqp5x2trUbUdZgyoqz17xjGr6HUTQPSpsei/xkssRhrXme7I C5xA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530N8OXr1FRemyBs0ZmlbUYGYGomCNMxwp+GwXbSofbTI5z1T2dX 8gHIJyj/61V2akDq0oPTMIfBXlEiKmi4r2vzU0A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyvD2b39UkAwZ2Ed3S3pYgqPAUVPO7w3NoN/+0og4VQzg3P4Vh/ZAXAECDJ4S9LnxNE5/8YMNKlkb3RINlo6pU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:a9c5:: with SMTP id b5mr14556580plr.167.1643493399297; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:56:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0C7FF60E-D7B1-434A-87D1-35E1102D7DC6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0C7FF60E-D7B1-434A-87D1-35E1102D7DC6@gmail.com> From: Henry Bent Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:56:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000041816605d6bfa014" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3 BSD network name resolution X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000041816605d6bfa014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 16:49, Will Senn wrote: > I'm working through 4.3BSD setup and configuration and came across this: > > > "There is no equivalent service for network names yet. The full host and > network name databases are normally derived from a file retrieved from > Internet Network Information Center at SRI... use gettable to retrieve the > NIC host database and htable to convert it to the format used by the > libraries." > > > Does this mean I should expect functionality like resolv.conf and ping > yahoo.com not to work in 4.3, or by some miracle is gettable still a > functional system? > gettable uses flat files to map names to numbers. It hasn't existed in probably 30+ years, and I can't even imagine how large the files it creates would be for the modern internet. Amusingly, for some strange reason it still exists in Solaris 11.2: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36871/gettable-1m.html -Henry --00000000000041816605d6bfa014 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 16:49, Will Senn &= lt;will.senn@gmail.com> wrote= :

I'm working thr= ough 4.3BSD setup and configuration and came across this:


"There is no e= quivalent service for network names yet. The full host and network name dat= abases are normally derived from a file retrieved from Internet Network Inf= ormation Center at SRI... use gettable to retrieve the NIC host database an= d htable to convert it to the format used by the libraries."


Does this mean I sh= ould expect functionality like resolv.conf and ping yahoo.com not to work in 4.3, or by some miracl= e is gettable still a functional system?


gettable uses flat files to map name= s to numbers.=C2=A0 It hasn't existed in probably 30+ years, and I can&= #39;t even imagine how large the files it creates would be for the modern i= nternet.

Amusingly, for some strange reason it sti= ll exists in Solaris 11.2: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36= 871/gettable-1m.html

-Henry
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