From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26894 invoked from network); 11 May 2023 17:50:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 May 2023 17:50:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB2424F0; Fri, 12 May 2023 03:50:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10C03424EB for ; Fri, 12 May 2023 03:49:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-4f139de8cefso47647775e87.0 for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1683827396; x=1686419396; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=gCbWRCWQ1En3diruVDh6FUOugWa/4j8UDvyGX6QSAwM=; b=lp8NmWCr6q/ie4Zp+NxXMBmPSGqz95GjxbfSEQhmaTqq80dRC3F03bwTIIhvNrMY2g VqHXMJPPTwQNw3sMcRtojaR6RToZzes0jw4hm/67NOm8jbnEqTwDpU9DhZW8SThgYfdo vFMw5pbsPz7Q9XOXUhfnEgCPcK8Fmwr33SdSbkg8gPwSYfgwXqioNasxCLrUqZ5zAnW2 4URxnZph8EBJ6YkzE5SXMx5wCbtodnFB1xMKbop6QW1lJzmegfWEOeo/RHqTu3GXBuWS bznrB2OFhO0zPjTphSA2pvEtwmeAETcabbAH5J/YQMPXhYbdrkLzmjaOeFMp23QQivbY qzIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1683827396; x=1686419396; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=gCbWRCWQ1En3diruVDh6FUOugWa/4j8UDvyGX6QSAwM=; b=a98atlpeKoO9r/RS4FUuszIbUukr0dw36IhnIc0u8G/aRvSTOwDSKMBpI33Wyi5ijB N5CCeL2IVipOjs+CnMgeuwFv8dXTf8pdwnUT9O77T7C+XRhqFbZCfe6PW64neraNU0Sg P76Wd2DQJqi9bG9OaMIUfOyYowqc4ztST6L4Mx5j0Gz6h/wlWRmi7vzSMyEX52AT4AJg Ej6pE6YO2FkqsQiYEYXxxmssfWJPWBz79q8hn30VyVfdphLIPBOtVas/VWWAizfcYiko Wdkhc6tujEi768WzMjpVJ+niVSNTAlsNZ9umoNzARs7HycB/Gq0Jqw50mEguLS1n1GqK tTzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzFs7rRfrxDnG0+/wH1kQL6Lxm2Tw3+ipVuN87/dRp/JGAt6sFs 92nYkQNkWK/YfwnElYPC9uAZbS8gjCvCo93vCw8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ59ymnVxcwiad54Hg5P0sOknddgkcqukF2BWJFaz9B/YxxLLLBfgxmiNRuGAcY6pBLGi5jTORWvqYhDp1RebKA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:10a3:b0:2ad:f82:93d2 with SMTP id k3-20020a05651c10a300b002ad0f8293d2mr3141168ljn.18.1683827395885; Thu, 11 May 2023 10:49:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Henry Bent Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 13:49:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cb7fb105fb6e9dc2" Message-ID-Hash: T2N5N5UY4WF57OQTYVWA3DEIDJGYUKKT X-Message-ID-Hash: T2N5N5UY4WF57OQTYVWA3DEIDJGYUKKT X-MailFrom: henry.r.bent@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: segaloco , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: BSTJ 1978 UNIX Issue Price Appreciation List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000cb7fb105fb6e9dc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:38, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM segaloco via TUHS wrote: > >> Howdy folks, I was perusing old copies of ;login: and came across a note >> about the BSTJ UNIX issue in the August 1978 newsletter: >> https://archive.org/details/login_august-1978 >> >> What I find particularly amusing is that all UNIX licensees at the time >> of that publication allegedly were provided a copy free of charge. The >> text goes on to indicate additional copies can be purchased for a measly >> $1.50. >> >> Fast forward to today and I typically don't see this copy pop up on >> auction for less than $100. Still, amazing how something was being just >> tossed out to anyone who wanted one and now here 45 years later, it's a = mad >> scramble to find the same. Then there's this listing: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/134212722284?hash=3Ditem1f3fb39e6c:g:9VEAAOSw8H= tjCp2H&amdata=3Denc%3AAQAIAAAA4IPDo14%2B7%2BCT30D5MvU1f9BJm77l1XWLxt2ojhau5= 03DpckIGbEgDyGAtPFQgj8m5y9CebRCho1Y9INzCsMX72UaQy96ent8gqtgFWH5MY3kpSNzkYBK= grjnVDMiom2HOuqHiy5H%2FzRjvpdv0BE7tKJ7tJv4BRuCeSEPoqd2U%2FdfuKVuvOTdG%2B28J= SWuPcN764AWcg3EbpeU7LUiGEELwjxL0FTsCQ%2F2wK5AuuwK8E9E7WFVuZzsm07jesQcjq75A7= t5fM0ggrRX2Mn9cO9%2BHRAP7KcOYhGJ1BqIYz1P1FzL%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_bFmL2BYg >> >> $3000 dollars...quite shocking, although perhaps they're banking on the >> uniqueness of that little sleeve, I've never seen one of those with a BS= TJ >> issue before. Was that some sort of packaging the issues were delivered >> in? It has the Bell Logo in the little window on either side, so I want= to >> believe it's original and not something someone threw together after the >> fact. >> >> In any case, I suspect part of the low pricing is due to Bell anti-trust >> stuff, as they really moved on nickle and diming on documentation once t= hey >> were legally able to. In any case, I'm always shocked to see how much I >> paid for something in my archival efforts and then I find a price sheet >> only to find out someone bought a book back in the day for the cost of a >> burger and fries. While I'm pursuing documents for research purposes...= I >> may be inadvertently building myself quite the value store without even >> meaning to... >> > > I bought mine in the couple of years for like $20. I think $3k is > delusional. They range from $25-$250 in the last year for 'offered' pric= e, > mostly in the < $100 range for the ones that sell... > Indeed, something is only worth what someone will pay for it. That auction could sit on eBay for a long time and until it sells it's worth nothing; the site is packed to the brim with delusional pricing. -Henry --000000000000cb7fb105fb6e9dc2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:38, Warner Losh= <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80= =AFAM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
Howdy folks, I was perusing old copies of ;login: and= came across a note about the BSTJ UNIX issue in the August 1978 newsletter= : https://archive.org/details/l= ogin_august-1978

What I find particularly a= musing is that all UNIX licensees at the time of that publication allegedly= were provided a copy free of charge.=C2=A0 The text goes on to indicate ad= ditional copies can be purchased for a measly $1.50.


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$3000 dollars...quite shocking, although perhaps they're banking= on the uniqueness of that little sleeve, I've never seen one of those = with a BSTJ issue before.=C2=A0 Was that some sort of packaging the issues = were delivered in?=C2=A0 It has the Bell Logo in the little window on eithe= r side, so I want to believe it's original and not something someone th= rew together after the fact.

In any case, I suspect part o= f the low pricing is due to Bell anti-trust stuff, as they really moved on = nickle and diming on documentation once they were legally able to.=C2=A0 In= any case, I'm always shocked to see how much I paid for something in m= y archival efforts and then I find a price sheet only to find out someone b= ought a book back in the day for the cost of a burger and fries.=C2=A0 Whil= e I'm pursuing documents for research purposes...I may be inadvertently= building myself quite the value store without even meaning to...

I bought mine in the couple of years for like = $20. I think $3k is delusional.=C2=A0 They range from $25-$250 in the last = year for 'offered' price, mostly in the < $100 range for the one= s that sell...

Indeed, so= mething is only worth what someone will pay for it.=C2=A0 That auction coul= d sit on eBay for a long time and until it sells it's worth nothing; th= e site is packed to the brim with delusional pricing.

-Henry
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