From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2ce7feb8 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 14:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9A04794F80; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:55:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89DA94F68; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:54:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="EQQEr3Ka"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9F5A294F68; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:54:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f50.google.com (mail-ot1-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2A9494F67 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:54:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f50.google.com with SMTP id r21so11020728otq.6 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yyna8zh6gbobicfYelCucB3o+5/uBWzQxfhuHKgA1Z0=; b=EQQEr3KaFi6xa3npJewSWeA998eXWVi03tk53qIYUV4VTdE6fCDZJq3UWOD4v6SykA j1Wq2nBdclxeKtSMllLB0N3DNBgX4knN0KfVvddw5ymIbb9770xTPqLoWupBVDwZnPXC UkXzRjrpFm643Uf2CvfZ4ZEUeFekrBnBbkClRbT+5Id3hvyFHqm+FbGY0SOlayOMd30v NlDZPeq3T6jZ3SdT9LmTHkA88Zpbq4I53LyhWP4gv8YKMzR5pfuwTEgXCbBpwHLtaBFN BWsMU9HMkDHHy4PbFVUiITnIXtaSYfIVg3NcwoSm04KDCT2IP85ngNnmJgV8k/j3fTE1 wpGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yyna8zh6gbobicfYelCucB3o+5/uBWzQxfhuHKgA1Z0=; b=O9ttG8herBn/4XcmnGxGoCgqmNw+2CG1gc1cFrAWeAhwECtgcTlZLMfTAM8ONtkFpH A/6wq/6hy/75yDNeOK/Wyj1HlmyXtZh5eH2FePJqru0IVKXtrtgAaVhCMWaSvd1zW7k0 6kWNmWwxvao+PBPn9XDZRPPrDIhA7x8fg7RO9kb7Bec0YVcHK4hlsz43vidQpCfcPy7w O/gsMaRX2VV3tmrxPWiwFj4zKvCsswRevzpJ4/W/omILno4LRypIyVul97xbMoHyiVix 2Nqx56qDkCsNNl0hnS/j5SuH9JJxroT9Ht5O6FApJjS73UCaPIAHSpmB89aDrXX6Kqf/ uxfg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUd2H8Hu1hXvz+FCyD8O99d05ZE1f3dz4Vuj613XXRJKhF/trr8 JKWENn+7XmpH67k2GLLGoVVP4XRr8C3t9rTVjqt/8Hh9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzGu9JEcMmKEzPqQhOTGUs+puhZCZ3QS70pz2jVWzbVDBQNVfPiOQJYJZwkU2SHtL9BkjxNXI5FpPd67cZ8scg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1146:: with SMTP id x6mr8716098otq.86.1561301696094; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8D0B5B0D-9956-47D7-8D36-1729BB1E1DA9@eschatologist.net> <5df8c6f6-2768-4bfb-9c47-3345098078a7@PU1APC01FT048.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <5df8c6f6-2768-4bfb-9c47-3345098078a7@PU1APC01FT048.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> From: Henry Bent Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 10:54:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Jason Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fba6ff058bfee04b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] CMU Mach sources? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000fba6ff058bfee04b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know that it's not exactly what was asked for, but DEC's OSF/1 V1.0 source is floating around out there in the ether, which is a fusion of Mach 2.5 and Ultrix 4.2. It's the original release, for MIPS-based DECstations, of what eventually became Digital UNIX / Tru64. -Henry On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 04:05, Jason Stevens wrote: > The fractions I've found of the 2.5 is on the CSRG #4 cd > > https://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/Mach/MACH_CSRG_CD.7z > > > You have to read the 404 to get the password. It changes frequently. > > I've been slowly trying to get 2.5 to build under Mt Xinu BSD/Mach. > > I've managed only the tools and bootloader so far. I've just been busy > moving offices the last week. > > Anyway in that directory is a bunch of other Mach stuff I've found. > > I also started trying to map the Mach 3.0 stuff > > > https://unix.superglobalmegacorp.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?sortby=3Dfile&on= ly_with_tag=3DMAIN&hideattic=3D1&hidenonreadable=3D1&f=3Du&logsort=3Ddate&c= vsroot=3DMach3&path=3D > > Including BSDSS a unknown to me port of BSD to Mach 3. > > It seems plenty of the Mach 1/2 stuff is hidden on CMU's servers in wait > of the ATT v CSRG lawsuit. And that everyone who worked on it left so it= 's > locked away hidden. > > There is a vmdk of the mt Xinu installed that will run on qemu and most > likely others as well. So you can take it out for a test drive > > > > > > *From: *Chris Hanson > *Sent: *Sunday, June 23, 2019 12:46 PM > *To: *tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org > *Subject: *[TUHS] CMU Mach sources? > > > > Does anyone know whether CMU=E2=80=99s local Mach sources have been prese= rved? > > > > I=E2=80=99m not just talking about MK84.default.tar.Z and so on, I=E2=80= =99m talking > about all the bits of Mach that were used on cluster systems on campus, > prior to the switch to vendor UNIX. > > > > I know at least one person who had complete MacMach sources for the last > version, but threw out the backup discs with the sources in the process o= f > moving. So I know they exist. > > > > If nothing else, CMU did provide other sites their UX source package (eg > UX42), which was the BSD single server environment. So I know that has to > be out there, somewhere. > > > > =E2=80=94 Chris > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > --000000000000fba6ff058bfee04b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know that it's not exactly what was asked for, but DEC's OSF/1 V1= .0 source is floating around out there in the ether, which is a fusion of M= ach 2.5 and Ultrix 4.2.=C2=A0 It's the original release, for MIPS-based= DECstations, of what eventually became Digital UNIX / Tru64.

-Henry

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 04:05, Jason Stevens= <jsteve@superglobalme= gacorp.com> wrote:

The fractions I&#= 39;ve found of the 2.5 is on the CSRG #4 cd

https://= vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/Mach/MACH_CSRG_CD.7z<= /u>

You have to rea= d the 404 to get the password. It changes frequently. =

I've been slowly tryi= ng to get 2.5 to build under Mt Xinu BSD/Mach.

I've managed only the tools = and bootloader so far.=C2=A0 I've just been busy moving offices the las= t week.

Anyway in that directory is a bunch of other Mach stuff I've found.=

I a= lso started trying to map the Mach 3.0 stuff

https://unix.superglobalmegaco= rp.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?sortby=3Dfile&only_with_tag=3DMAIN&hidea= ttic=3D1&hidenonreadable=3D1&f=3Du&logsort=3Ddate&cvsroot= =3DMach3&path=3D

Including BSDSS a unknown to me port of BSD to Mach 3.<= u>

It se= ems plenty of the Mach 1/2 stuff is hidden on CMU's servers in wait of = the ATT v CSRG lawsuit.=C2=A0 And that everyone who worked on it left so it= 's locked away hidden.

= There = is a vmdk of the mt Xinu installed that will run on qemu and most likely ot= hers as well.=C2=A0 So you can take it out for a test drive <= /span>

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Chris Hanson
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019= 12:46 PM
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] CMU Mach sources?=

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Does anyone know whether CMU=E2=80=99s local Mach sources have been pr= eserved?

=C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m not just talking about MK84.default.tar.Z=C2=A0 and so o= n, I=E2=80=99m talking about all the bits of Mach that were used on cluster= systems on campus, prior to the switch to vendor UNIX.

=C2=A0

I know at least one p= erson who had complete MacMach sources for the last version, but threw out = the backup discs with the sources in the process of moving. So I know they = exist.

=C2=A0

If nothing else, CMU did provide other sites their UX source package (= eg UX42), which was the BSD single server environment. So I know that has t= o be out there, somewhere.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =E2=80=94 Chris

<= u>=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

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