From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25847 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2021 15:49:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Jan 2021 15:49:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 42DF59C7B1; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:49:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8238F9C63D; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:48:40 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Yea6olsH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B6CB09C63D; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:48:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f52.google.com (mail-ej1-f52.google.com [209.85.218.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A5DA9C5FD for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:48:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f52.google.com with SMTP id by1so18730030ejc.0 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:48:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=91d10htfOqDIhX1rvTczTLQ7UTvNvgW/FLoe59JmXBU=; b=Yea6olsH2a+PPJahuPFxGrnIf1ax9kbzkQfv3D9T1dYIgvEtMGjumcR+8uIA/snQfH WTI3BnT5FxfXCGS3gs5MHjNDnCzBpTYnRR2QW7a6FZ2dfhovTp+GC8xBpf+iTTX8OJqo 4LkF38a0fKtHJgKx2pQVznxMHbunNpcVMY4sy+WnRggQFml2kZzA0Sj66F5Z67UyIyHU /fKQWUvRiKN8HzTgvO2v3Tj5K2DvHe5LO8vAB4V7ofCfahHc/71PA4f/f8JAVvQvOa/K aVwuHZvPJ81fHiAtAAjosFVOrmgmWNhPHUfGK82OMtq3oBP0JTewiN8MQalYdCmqpe/T pg2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=91d10htfOqDIhX1rvTczTLQ7UTvNvgW/FLoe59JmXBU=; b=tH5fSri9LswPTgfHiI+bfAC7B73sJ8yktRapC1flr4nOtuZKQyH5vyICNARjTjlYm2 Z+Z5I4B3R898lfFgYBCtbjywL06zuoM/0BIpJ4HRxdmgB8KMd3C4slSt0t4spZk3qhEt B6VMyZwhEwyWWboTYZ1VnjXGtgVdb332oa8jkXq82KFAJ1zFX1gocF8s6zCmq1d++bWT LjK5YriPfh4W1ABlOj5JTlOkwNz0TEQTwA6EOVwz84K4lN7/N+JpoCcazVVNpyFkGUPa s1ZaGlbrg3ZADlUtlgiYGPW4C4urwxKn1RdCH3K188jJhYWXWNKa5qPjPmGa6GZISoDR 9hxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531/fRd1puA1Rza/ToEN/DhNPgjnLaT4lqMENskoq3W1UWcaoh4R JnXBJgpXoJ7X28QuyxSbR5yqID34LeiIP6Xz2VQ1KhGJTa0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzx+JetOWKTO2LMRF0puPPELkTDQxfRpE5vKIf9lviUSb8tpxmYvyY5k8noGEYIVL+px3P5x20f7QDPc53WwCw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:d214:: with SMTP id w20mr793049ejz.284.1611589714012; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:48:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124212525.GJ21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242333.10ONXjcI974038@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101250021.10P0L3Z2976588@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: From: Henry Bent Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:48:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006d6f5405b9bb7873" Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000006d6f5405b9bb7873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 09:39, Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 7:21 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > >> I think that X1 was W. But I was doing other stuff at the time and don'= t >> know for sure. >> > Gettys or Keith might know =3D but I think that is close. My memory was = X1 > was a port of W to the Vaxstation under Ultrix. Like you I was not payin= g > a lot of attention. > The reference port for X10 was certainly a VAXstation (I/II/GPX). I've compiled and run X10 and X11R1 on SIMH's microVAX II emulation running Ultrix 2.3; my recollection is that it all works right out of the box. Wikipedia says "DEC, then preparing to release its first Ultrix workstation, judged X the only windowing system likely to become available in time. DEC engineers ported X6 to DEC's QVSS display on MicroVAX ." To me that's unclear if there already was an Ultrix / uVAX port of some other nature or if that was the first iteration. https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml states that the original X was for the VAXstation 100. I have no idea what OS it would have been running; a release date of 1983 for the VS100 would predate Ultrix 1.0. -Henry > =E1=90=A7 > --0000000000006d6f5405b9bb7873 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 7:21 PM Jon Steinhart <<= a href=3D"mailto:jon@fourwinds.com" target=3D"_blank">jon@fourwinds.com= > wrote:
I think that X1 was W.=C2=A0 But I was doing other stuff at the time and do= n't
know for sure.
Gettys or Keith might know= =C2=A0=3D but I think that is close.=C2=A0 My memory was X1 was a port = of W to the Vaxstation under Ultrix.=C2=A0 Like you I was not paying a lot = of attention.

The = reference port for X10 was certainly a VAXstation (I/II/GPX).=C2=A0 I'v= e compiled and run X10 and X11R1 on SIMH's microVAX II emulation runnin= g Ultrix 2.3; my recollection is that it all works right out of the box.=C2= =A0 Wikipedia says "DEC, then preparing to release its first Ultrix workstation, judged X the only windowing system likely to become=20 available in time. DEC engineers ported X6 to DEC's QVSS display on MicroVAX= ." To me that's unclear if there already was an Ultrix / uVAX = port of some other nature or if that was the first iteration.

https://= www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml states that the original X was for the V= AXstation 100.=C2=A0 I have no idea what OS it would have been running; a r= elease date of 1983 for the VS100 would predate Ultrix 1.0.
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