From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25439 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 22:56:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Jun 2020 22:56:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5BFCD9C7BE; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:56:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3659C276; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:55:52 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="A5VK2WC7"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F3B489C24C; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:55:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f41.google.com (mail-ot1-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99DBC9C246 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:55:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f41.google.com with SMTP id m2so14453635otr.12 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:55:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vTwR+0wL8iDZK4VtTLoPrJQQfLyC/LVQakes7KKuiuI=; b=A5VK2WC7cJCmz396M8CZT5a/ySTfeNP7dXggRbP8MlLrYb91Kpxfd7AuHo6+IpZtGp Lr+qVovx48tFcV6UXdUp9+njjMfN9NPvuiRSUyoKFv5V596MfYfyFTv7AP5HIr2SrhJY mM5cGBMoqnVR8ze4H1AzCZtJIA+ytFrSs5VC1b4clLoFg0uRLEfj1rFIPEaQXluf2CVG rRrWK4aN9EN4Qn1nvz0T/ezjTV0/SBMcDgKjAcpfYu5s59XdyUPLfeNACDQWdclaXKuf 4s8LCVjfNHWo7ooo8kS/EUKZuEl78GP/KMetzz+yJjgU7CH5dTSJTl6lgPKQJpn300T6 2zKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vTwR+0wL8iDZK4VtTLoPrJQQfLyC/LVQakes7KKuiuI=; b=QH9SRpzNzdhp9Yux4gwzvTjEiTsMKYzzt0tLf8QKX3wDb5yxJAfWKP15hwHnGkNN6C bnAjdYMFm6tkIPHeVH98TUWrbBK+s+OV4LOSAHKlx5KCAEWJd9CA0YriCX4pcbKi/+qn h0aP/FpNkqDG1MD75fAfs816oer3qu2vrI/7iupRUl23ZEC64ib6smJI+pWctJH/1bvQ 2U4bG5YUsCy0+B0iAFTfQYICE3cpJm2Czq1eopoB+ompCDyfOIanK7B2WvTu4CYWwNOz SGYS+f0pBgOUHTMDEoMfLXacv+bSi8rrYEM7CuDNLB0xBs6u1CevEmMMtBVBOx+7GgWU vt7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5309Awj8cK/la5wHpYxfnqOu+vGHRdpmas6B4FqhxtOZ+IaKyhkS 3zlNWXBq5CIVBX8n5WgVUNJlDH3kfTdin75bWpg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyuSeoPySTbk+on4jEA+qY6vQt3p3ZakRboeBrLWUwn9I/F6Skf1qt0aidRON/FKA7mW7GMpadPzbjSbWKiILk= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7cc2:: with SMTP id r2mr218643otn.25.1592261748964; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:55:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1592252735.3176.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> In-Reply-To: From: Henry Bent Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:55:40 -0400 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000efbf9605a82753d6" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Origins and life of the pg pager X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000efbf9605a82753d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 17:37, Rob Pike wrote: > I had forgotten about that tool, along with many others. "Comp" sounds > plausible but as I said, I forget. (Not a sign of age; my memory for > details is no match for Clem's; to me stage actors are superheroes). > Remembering the blocking and the actor's names for a play you saw thirty years ago would be an impressive feat, but I would argue that it is much more beneficial in the long run to remember the basic plot and the message that the production was attempting to convey. > This history stuff is fun because of the reminder of a time when tools were simple and you could create a whole new one in an afternoon. Indeed, that's a nearly impossible task now. We have transitioned to a world where you can say, "here's my sketch for a program that I think would be useful," and that sketch is either a basic chapter outline or you've only finished writing chapter one. You put it up on Github, try to give it a little publicity, and hope that others can share your vision or at least provide constructive criticism. -Henry --000000000000efbf9605a82753d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 17:37, Rob Pike &l= t;robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
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I had forgotten about that tool, along with many o= thers. "Comp" sounds plausible but as I said, I forget. (Not a si= gn of age; my memory for details is no match for Clem's; to me stage ac= tors are superheroes).

Remembering th= e blocking and the actor's names for a play you saw thirty years ago wo= uld be an impressive feat, but I would argue that it is much more beneficia= l in the long run to remember the basic plot and the message that the produ= ction was attempting to convey.
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&g= t; This history stuff is fun because of the reminder of a time when tools w= ere simple and you could create a whole new one in an afternoon.
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Indeed, that's a nearly impossible task now.=C2=A0 We ha= ve transitioned to a world where you can say, "here's my sketch fo= r a program that I think would be useful," and that sketch is either a= basic chapter outline or you've only finished writing chapter one.=C2= =A0 You put it up on Github, try to give it a little publicity, and hope th= at others can share your vision or at least provide constructive criticism.=

-Henry
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