From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E302A267EC for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:55:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4848142888; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 07:55:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74F242886 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 07:55:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5135ab96dcbso268626e87.1 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:55:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1709762136; x=1710366936; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=a1k6caSWQj3TcKxLqNlLQ8erL0WkWHaWv9YetxwnLlA=; b=ag20xJDkQEYwRp8nIss7lOYA42NZeloGzdnysQ6/BqwJcmV69I4gi6DPaCpX3vVdnz uMHeyIjnKdW2xgNUgcPp40XRz5g70780upPBCTHoDhQ6ZKIDXTT9FMMgDe1AnuwPAWeS 9jTCLRFhJTTzRBkw7e600byPVdc+QzHboDD+0qzWmmXbQiTo+QGhhs9tMs3juaqKZc8Y PvoW0+tm6eWzVMcmTUjBGFNNTWVIOqcObby7WxkCobJLXf8KHNG2dnO5bz6fccDf3CZl nEJvEL4IeIwkKK591D0cfIUazEButzo1LJlB/y5aGWFGQseCuAUeIeM87eII69otHFW/ Eo2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709762136; x=1710366936; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=a1k6caSWQj3TcKxLqNlLQ8erL0WkWHaWv9YetxwnLlA=; b=kjQceW9zukqXB9K377spDtlSM7NhTaU3BjOBs9oaOydakoOzRscF5lUtLXMKHdIK84 ARKYegq6bv2nas1pXY8OpJigvuaL5vHw/+jhohJxjxhyeAbtHNnVgqnjTtsLXKDXh/m9 6ArH5QcZx4oCbMbVN+0hLYtYiJ5X+n9prXHHY2YEsNweMQpJqWfjsUBXr6ZvLaMcoDuk RMHXptMMB+FLuxXIVXnmEMAyO4h1zMdX+hmp3KXdIWCqBYCVbWB41hOxmMFZ7GTj/dyl XHfMw5F+p7w30JeXVOesjU8dLN+q+8XIvc3ocAnjGBMaAFZqcKbP9WW+yXH2rN0ZQsW8 LJaA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCU3it1AeR6J4vm2R313harvTwqeiDuWKxWr6sCpyBJ+MpkRRg+Gwki/7oX2B7M2f7kWsl0TJi5r7+eE4sbC X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzRfxKe850o78sZgdCeCmJxzkBjP6a2o7BL0B1xAgCSRA5F8dHB JXSf2rNCHWwsS+v+haC6Cbq8r8uvMtS2zm+XapDjDdvlfK+sfz8Hy1s0Jskb8k9qGz6Ry88pSp0 v+dgMXXk+Ma5onZydrF8/KFCQBTw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFGDM66JoE9VTEOL8xT6InPqNqODD5Iid4Gh6pXyfqvq8jDDmSUMl62kTRWzPlq3GAf6sG0ACWoYpZ2fBUQTS4= X-Received: by 2002:a19:f018:0:b0:512:f4d6:7163 with SMTP id p24-20020a19f018000000b00512f4d67163mr40958lfc.6.1709762135410; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:55:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Henry Bent Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bb53e1061305047a" Message-ID-Hash: FBIQNWQIVCAPVKXQ3FF4ASGD2KKVAAGA X-Message-ID-Hash: FBIQNWQIVCAPVKXQ3FF4ASGD2KKVAAGA X-MailFrom: henry.r.bent@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: simh@groups.io, The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SVR2 on a PDP-11 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000bb53e1061305047a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 16:51, segaloco wrote: > On Wednesday, March 6th, 2024 at 1:16 PM, Henry Bent < > henry.r.bent@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have a distribution of SVR2 on the PDP-11 that I have managed to get > booting into the initial root dump, but it is not clear to me how to > proceed from there to format a /usr filesystem and setup for multi-user. > > > > ... > > > > I haven't managed to find any installation manuals or the like on > Bitsavers, and I can't even manage to find a listing in the source of the > expected disk partitions/sizes. I feel very much like I am stumbling in the > dark here and would appreciate any pointers to how to proceed. Thanks! > > > > -Henry > > First off I didn't know SVR2 made it to the PDP-11, I thought they cut it > off after the initial System V release, is what you have AT&T or some > derivative version? > > Second, this is the setup instructions for DEC processors for the initial > release of System V which included the PDP-11/70: > https://archive.org/details/unix-system-administrators-guide-5-0/04%20Setting%20Up%20The%20UNIX%20System%20%28DEC%29/ > > Additionally, here is the Operator's Guide which details bootstrapping the > system among other things: > https://archive.org/details/unix-system-operators-guide-release-5-0/mode/2up > > While not SVR2, hopefully the differences are minimal enough that you can > use those. Good luck! > > Also regarding finding more documentation, sadly AT&T stripped out the > /usr/doc materials with System V, so these critical pieces of documentation > actually can't be found in a typical system distribution, rather, you had > to get the paper copies. I'm not aware of any discovery of TROFF sources > for any of this stuff past System III, I do have it on my long-term list to > eventually synthesize copies of said documents from available scans so they > can be more easily diff'd, but my current focus is much, much earlier. > Thank you, this is a wonderful starting point. I often forget that sometimes archive.org will have documentation that is not duplicated in other sources, so this is a welcome reminder. I'll read through all of this and report back. -Henry --000000000000bb53e1061305047a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 16:51, segaloco <= ;segaloco@protonmail.com>= wrote:
On Wednesday, March 6th, 2024 at 1:16 PM, Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail= .com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have a distribution of SVR2 on the PDP-11 that I have managed to get= booting into the initial root dump, but it is not clear to me how to proce= ed from there to format a /usr filesystem and setup for multi-user.
>
> ...
>
> I haven't managed to find any installation manuals or the like on = Bitsavers, and I can't even manage to find a listing in the source of t= he expected disk partitions/sizes. I feel very much like I am stumbling in = the dark here and would appreciate any pointers to how to proceed. Thanks!<= br> >
> -Henry

First off I didn't know SVR2 made it to the PDP-11, I thought they cut = it off after the initial System V release, is what you have AT&T or som= e derivative version?

Second, this is the setup instructions for DEC processors for the initial r= elease of System V which included the PDP-11/70: https://a= rchive.org/details/unix-system-administrators-guide-5-0/04%20Setting%20Up%2= 0The%20UNIX%20System%20%28DEC%29/

Additionally, here is the Operator's Guide which details bootstrapping = the system among other things: https://archive.org/details/unix-system-operators-guide-release-5-0/= mode/2up

While not SVR2, hopefully the differences are minimal enough that you can u= se those.=C2=A0 Good luck!

Also regarding finding more documentation, sadly AT&T stripped out the = /usr/doc materials with System V, so these critical pieces of documentation= actually can't be found in a typical system distribution, rather, you = had to get the paper copies.=C2=A0 I'm not aware of any discovery of TR= OFF sources for any of this stuff past System III, I do have it on my long-= term list to eventually synthesize copies of said documents from available = scans so they can be more easily diff'd, but my current focus is much, = much earlier.

Thank you, this is a wond= erful starting point.=C2=A0 I often forget that sometimes archive.org will have documentation that is not duplicate= d in other sources, so this is a welcome reminder.=C2=A0 I'll read thro= ugh all of this and report back.

-Henry
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