* [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set?
@ 2020-09-14 19:33 saint.snit
2020-09-14 20:02 ` Warner Losh
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From: saint.snit @ 2020-09-14 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
Hi,
Is there a repository of historical versions of Eric Allman's -me macro
set for troff?
(For some context: the macro set has been forked to operate with two
modern troff implementations: GNU groff and Heirloom troff. According
to the header blocks of the respective files, groff's -me macros are
forked from version 2.31 of Allman's, and Heirloom's from version 2.14.
For help in debugging -me problems in these troff implementations,
I'm trying to locate at least these versions of the -me package as they
existed before forking. I posted this query on the troff email list,
but no one there knew the answer, and one person suggested I ask here.)
Thanks for any pointers.
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2020-09-14 19:33 [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set? saint.snit
@ 2020-09-14 20:02 ` Warner Losh
2020-09-14 20:08 ` Henry Bent
2020-09-14 20:57 ` Eric Allman
2020-09-14 21:41 ` Jeremy C. Reed
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From: Warner Losh @ 2020-09-14 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: saint.snit; +Cc: TUHS main list
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There should be copies in 4BSD releases.
But it is also in the SCCS files as share/me/SCCS/s.tmac.orig_me and that
has what looks like a complete history.
Warner
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 1:46 PM <saint.snit@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a repository of historical versions of Eric Allman's -me macro
> set for troff?
>
> (For some context: the macro set has been forked to operate with two
> modern troff implementations: GNU groff and Heirloom troff. According
> to the header blocks of the respective files, groff's -me macros are
> forked from version 2.31 of Allman's, and Heirloom's from version 2.14.
> For help in debugging -me problems in these troff implementations,
> I'm trying to locate at least these versions of the -me package as they
> existed before forking. I posted this query on the troff email list,
> but no one there knew the answer, and one person suggested I ask here.)
>
> Thanks for any pointers.
>
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* Re: [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set?
2020-09-14 20:02 ` Warner Losh
@ 2020-09-14 20:08 ` Henry Bent
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From: Henry Bent @ 2020-09-14 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Warner Losh; +Cc: saint.snit, TUHS main list
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 16:04, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> There should be copies in 4BSD releases.
>
> But it is also in the SCCS files as share/me/SCCS/s.tmac.orig_me and that
> has what looks like a complete history.
>
> Warner
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 1:46 PM <saint.snit@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a repository of historical versions of Eric Allman's -me macro
>> set for troff?
>>
>> (For some context: the macro set has been forked to operate with two
>> modern troff implementations: GNU groff and Heirloom troff. According
>> to the header blocks of the respective files, groff's -me macros are
>> forked from version 2.31 of Allman's, and Heirloom's from version 2.14.
>> For help in debugging -me problems in these troff implementations,
>> I'm trying to locate at least these versions of the -me package as they
>> existed before forking. I posted this query on the troff email list,
>> but no one there knew the answer, and one person suggested I ask here.)
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.
>>
>
Here's a link:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/csrg/share/me/tmac.orig_me?view=log
-Henry
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* Re: [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set?
2020-09-14 19:33 [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set? saint.snit
2020-09-14 20:02 ` Warner Losh
@ 2020-09-14 20:57 ` Eric Allman
2020-09-14 21:41 ` Jeremy C. Reed
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From: Eric Allman @ 2020-09-14 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: saint.snit; +Cc: tuhs
I've got the SCCS files for tmac.e through 2.14 (12/28/1981). I'm not
sure what happened to later versions.
eric
On 2020-09-14 12:33 , saint.snit@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a repository of historical versions of Eric Allman's -me macro
> set for troff?
>
> (For some context: the macro set has been forked to operate with two
> modern troff implementations: GNU groff and Heirloom troff. According
> to the header blocks of the respective files, groff's -me macros are
> forked from version 2.31 of Allman's, and Heirloom's from version 2.14.
> For help in debugging -me problems in these troff implementations,
> I'm trying to locate at least these versions of the -me package as they
> existed before forking. I posted this query on the troff email list,
> but no one there knew the answer, and one person suggested I ask here.)
>
> Thanks for any pointers.
>
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* Re: [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set?
2020-09-14 19:33 [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set? saint.snit
2020-09-14 20:02 ` Warner Losh
2020-09-14 20:57 ` Eric Allman
@ 2020-09-14 21:41 ` Jeremy C. Reed
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From: Jeremy C. Reed @ 2020-09-14 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: saint.snit; +Cc: tuhs
> Is there a repository of historical versions of Eric Allman's -me macro
> set for troff?
Also see
https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2BSD/doc/me
https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2BSD/bin/lib/me
(especially revisions and tmac.e)
https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2BSD/src/me
(again revisions and tmac.e)
And look at the SCCS "s.revisions" file
While it says "First Release: 11 Sept 1978" there is also a tmac.e
included and used by docs in 1BSD for exrefm.
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* Re: [TUHS] revision history of troff -me macro set?
@ 2020-09-17 6:20 saint.snit
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From: saint.snit @ 2020-09-17 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
Thanks, everyone, for the very helpful replies. Those links are exactly what I was looking for.
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