From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1130 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2023 18:30:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jun 2023 18:30:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1192840BA4; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 04:30:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com (mail-lj1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::235]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55DB40B9B for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 04:30:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x235.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2b219ed9915so55139391fa.3 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:30:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1686594621; x=1689186621; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=XHnFo4sJtOU5TIDy5lbrbe9CfLP3K79jAZPGmumXSPs=; b=UPFTbdpDWCWyzZaosAEYVkoXg7Rit24KdqkEDi73fe8wQGg2koZmrWsH1gntY65I5p KJ8MVnDUK7E49CD0zw48dBaprA79OiscFtX1GZhYChmb8M3Hwpzz4ZX819dwGAEfrxzJ gEfHFGvKSeT2E1/ZQ7I04VwR1O6tMigAC0CL4y6eJDmBOWbVpX+Ky4Z9k3hnCBENr6bN mzs2ZhybtcWEiIl6K1o82nSIrN7Gj57zxhIjTOSVvMBtCnLYZAeyss9nDQosRxBvMbnK AHGFlap1cwP/2jo5HugLZsArkF46PaZjhfQk0drMMLZm0PgQ53EO5ZsNpAclzrLP92vg 08Wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686594621; x=1689186621; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XHnFo4sJtOU5TIDy5lbrbe9CfLP3K79jAZPGmumXSPs=; b=l0pyZefEUzcIqAnGyqf549KmUVdsQtc9cFawsmL/ghlbdh7m2Bw6yQLtcHfBCpsuqo 9JYfmLpxE1ddSGWR1u3vZ+QxOSs46BhytYf5xr5e4HWWnqhOEIkDzQbP5xUpfszcep2E ec8w+LsiI0lzwSO44H6SfsECCQi13B0Kmc080nPv5yY9MdP1U94BkMciI/Vt6zzSemPQ 0hDWiLRHlycTW0O0jJKXAA9JlfY8zjCjoVDxCh2L4gTWOLxz7RIDwb+lQc3cl3+mzDDf lIKqaTImqdFCe6K2AW111JlWoQIIlQ8zLnCxhqZKc84pANUruTdRNuTDMv/2qCaRBYIN nG2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxhr/SIU0JY4FMIjKLv7chmwwbnZ/ZwjYC7n1b2I9He8Rge94+1 Ee+aEqiqrqDSeZPA/sZ4qTzrfYrnzA2NGyY+/wgGY8ZSNuQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6vzh0T5ClggTiMWahoJcr8WqnR+NP0G8VgEsobpFkjHGtkpwYtz73sIZ3HBusDiVVpHiDDvP1KHCMaAW1o7kY= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8844:0:b0:2a7:96bd:9eb3 with SMTP id z4-20020a2e8844000000b002a796bd9eb3mr4095327ljj.3.1686594621230; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:30:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:29:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: ron minnich Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: VW53P4P5LI33BR6JTVOCNXRVEELINUG7 X-Message-ID-Hash: VW53P4P5LI33BR6JTVOCNXRVEELINUG7 X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: crt0 -- what's in that name? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 2:22=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich wr= ote: > This came up lately in the riscv firmware universe. Someone named early b= oot bt0, I mentioned crt0, and ... when did that name first appear? I first= saw it in v6 but I'm sure it was long before. The Unix tree shows it in 2nd Edition: https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV2/lib/crt0.s That would suggest it was more or less contemporaneous with C itself. - Dan C.