From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 29e66823 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 25A5E9489C; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:07:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F16E947D8; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:06:53 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="F0OEhq75"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AF67F947D8; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:06:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f172.google.com (mail-qt1-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BC97947D5 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:06:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f172.google.com with SMTP id h21so505827qtn.13 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QIUQCuSUUjAgFCF4psggOvKqN0uSYt1pP9qkMWOSoUE=; b=F0OEhq753AgAFED2Tm2RUvOOmW4Bu32z4NLUrBL2AOFYuqPPAimG4Fbtkt3KElAs2z 3ZslndAXTMFuf5wb4wOBk3uBriW145z70I6x9gCB6Nc+Ud+hL989U2AIJmnyJWOvGgiw moeqGMEO9Ytsz4Z/tX5uTBcAlPn1i+OsH9G8/SlvtWngOYunfmSyzLr80Vyk7JgW0+4F YlI0iO+B21rLvRAG+0pcKIsSLIObEHFISBdqUIuQmPn2FVcLASunEOgAV/cah8edjaoN YXBmRpp3QZNEizWlEHZQzahsm6Rfby0aVAIgBk7BuMWm3fBxrQufI6o9ejh+SvskmHPZ aFmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QIUQCuSUUjAgFCF4psggOvKqN0uSYt1pP9qkMWOSoUE=; b=Qj3fmkEU1NR6s1IDmvBTjBrZQk92OZKpPUZwzCSOd5L3gG9Humu2sui09tDKY3MM9K sv7V9IEjrIPX2BBZqC8K5AA0QzDDC1kOnUpQ6M4Jmpp5GNdQtgA5DapVd2KHCFcWK8F5 1x0bTXH/Fr4v955CQzVhs7bBDh8ImQoIuMI28yXUGCJXJCF2jGbF7uDO5CCLzkjJiV/w 1s0RJFbieL6qELXcFCKXNQ4LTOLBdHIDaryuts9Y2pOgmtUAlRkIvZJx7V3c2e9C+30H bO9vPPtCNN2lP8W4apdqS/VPOgt53TeFCXygEf3zBnHlXBReYNMJgdEUjdqhS0wjj5Oq Ci8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZsCztiQ70Jx7+JWz2p+yNZlH23tv50q/MRUxChbyoJbItQNjX j5RldYUsuBPLOVpu0xlT5TOHEkCCtgXIROULwUV3QA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxemvQYMKb5VPCTf1vgg0236RPO6VBo/K1cGYjEUjVTe75T3ChSdTugEvJ0zfQ/KPAC6l1TbzyrBnJotZCZdzg= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:19ac:: with SMTP id u41mr20590831qtj.46.1562717210058; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:06:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <03f3d34a-bc7f-4b26-559e-101ccd614ef3@mhorton.net> <30de4da1-be33-b546-a277-37afe5632e6e@mhorton.net> <5cb16efc-4c88-9750-a5d0-2ef20dd79746@mhorton.net> In-Reply-To: <5cb16efc-4c88-9750-a5d0-2ef20dd79746@mhorton.net> From: Dan Cross Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 20:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Mary Ann Horton Gmail Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000030a33f058d4874e5" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000030a33f058d4874e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Amazingly, I got `leroy` to build on a modern(ish) system. Mary Ann, are you in Renton right now? On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:23 PM Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote: > Thanks, Henry, you found my mistake. > > I've corrected the links to the Sept 1983 maps and verified that the date > in the map is September. Would you please rerun that one? :) > > The extra icons in the legend are nice! > > Yes, I agree doing this on a plotter would be better. I recall Brian Reid > doing just that as a product demo of an HP plotter at one Usenix. I had > such a poster, I was going to bring it this week but I can't find it. Now I > know where he got his data... > > Thanks, > > Mary Ann > On 7/9/19 3:02 PM, Henry Bent wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 17:46, Henry Bent wrote: > >> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 17:39, Grant Taylor via TUHS >> wrote: >> >>> On 7/9/19 2:54 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote: >>> > Any chance you could do the same for this file? It looks smaller, but >>> > it's a couple weeks newer so it's possible it's somehow better. >>> >>> While searching for the 2nd article for the May, I found the following >>> articles: >>> >>> Link - Usenet graphic map of North America, part 1 of 2 >>> - >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=net.sources/ZoPcfdMPIzQ/pEPpCV6m77QJ >>> >>> Link - Usenet graphic map of North America, part 2 of 2 >>> - >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=net.sources/cE_tkMNKZ_U/JoR7KGTJ_3YJ >>> >>> The dates of these articles are September 21, 1983. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Grant. . . . >>> unix || die >>> >>> >> Thanks Grant, Mary Ann found what I needed and I'm working away. Somehow >> in going back over what I used to build a working setup I managed to break >> my working setup, so I'm trying to fix that to get the next set of files >> output. >> >> -Henry >> >> > OK, here's the second set of Usenet maps, again in raw plot and SVG form. > The only difference with the "g" maps, produced with the gmap.leroy script, > seems to be the addition of a few graphical icons. > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y6PU1NJv8mdVr1SQsQUDnUjNlq6N2bvv/view?usp=sharing > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JpbMTzhmJD-amLCpYOWMPQCHyCsrC_ck/view?usp=sharing > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WRhiPTj1URUGNuxCh-8ERuK0FnQ_i1tk/view?usp=sharing > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1plhCfaP1Uyxu5wAgtQEyPEA88r8JLHIW/view?usp=sharing > > I'm pretty sure this is how they would have looked originally, cluttered > as they are. The nice thing about them being in a vector format, though, > is that you could blow them up to poster size if you wanted to. > > -Henry > > --00000000000030a33f058d4874e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Amazingly, I got `leroy` to build on a modern(ish) system.= Mary Ann, are you in Renton right now?

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:23 PM Mary = Ann Horton Gmail <mah@mhorton.net= > wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Thanks, Henry, you found my mistake.

I've corrected the links to the Sept 1983 maps and verified that the date in the map is September.=C2=A0 Would you please rerun that one? :)

The extra icons in the legend are nice!

Yes, I agree doing this on a plotter would be better. I recall Brian Reid doing just that as a product demo of an HP plotter at one Usenix. I had such a poster, I was going to bring it this week but I can't find it. Now I know where he got his data...

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mary Ann

On 7/9/19 3:0= 2 PM, Henry Bent wrote:
=20
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 17:46, Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.co= m> wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 17:39, Grant Taylor via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org> wrote:
On 7/9/19= 2:54 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
> Any chance you could do the same for this file? It looks smaller, but
> it's a couple weeks newer so it's possible i= t's somehow better.

While searching for the 2nd article for the May, I found the following
articles:

Link - Usenet graphic map of North America, part 1 of 2
=C2=A0 -
https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=3Dnet.sources/ZoPcfdMPI= zQ/pEPpCV6m77QJ

Link - Usenet graphic map of North America, part 2 of 2
=C2=A0 -
https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=3Dnet.sources/cE_tkMNKZ= _U/JoR7KGTJ_3YJ

The dates of these articles are September 21, 1983.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Thanks Grant, Mary Ann found what I needed and I'm working away.=C2=A0 Somehow in going back ove= r what I used to build a working setup I managed to break my working setup, so I'm trying to fix that to ge= t the next set of files output.

-Henry


OK, here's the second set of Usenet maps, again in raw plot and SVG form.=C2=A0 The only difference with the "g&q= uot; maps, produced with the gmap.leroy script, seems to be the addition of a few graphical icons.


I'm pretty sure this is how they would have looked originally, cluttered as they are.=C2=A0 The nice thing about them being in a vector format, though, is that you could blow them up to poster size if you wanted to.

-Henry
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