From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7580 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2022 12:04:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Jun 2022 12:04:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAE4407A5; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 22:04:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-x32d.google.com (mail-ot1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B28C4001D for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 22:04:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id e67-20020a9d01c9000000b0060c221b1420so8710516ote.0 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 05:04:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QRGX3Okne7c6PTaIpirkh/YSNZkN8fR9zsY93l9E+dY=; b=ZnEqZYt/nNcyzGBnjz7niKB5HrwzsAQKlYJisRUmUiD4b1pfmZL11eDdoAzHTsXJJQ ZDQvt0Kt/LZo+JQQYP8bs9s8hK6AG0nd2VkjgkaKmON0147GFSuM4xrpjf5PUNgfSyXc ylaZ+sgFPB+mmg+yxhClvVTKzbflGU1AnJA7H7RGFcD03SeOHvyhnxNtIF5V7Xjb2H7X YxdhZsCdaALSABgM7Uz8f3113VTq9V5JeFcRTdFW3uAuLYvGsQMwc2fES67q2F6kxqCR yUoxuLfCUQ88kd11ligrQ7yj7U4LhIViwcWwuGH9nq8MuFMl4ixAenFvCgocJ2xJ6+z4 kL1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QRGX3Okne7c6PTaIpirkh/YSNZkN8fR9zsY93l9E+dY=; b=fuSw1386KP+fUHJ9Tev2JApmrktYlmZD7l5H9AUEeTF0g+CfOoKoxY+TRhxBNZIUG9 ou68SGokUPyFR2HSHbycbTAfAJmx1BfrPgnX71f3L2cBGeVMj/N1n3rdn6mzMlBXrXph ubpiqjP92E7SUbVFkf8X+rJhBvzUWeVL8BoK+vHPHAf1TMHdbBMpgu2KNGr7u4dPShQq rrbNToPD3XqfqZG/tJMEf5n3gWL/CL6PFVrW290pF5//nBiLkJdQOYFyIA60ZaVx/Hnw ZgBekWssXb9IEf3abj4QRxcg2qXbn9R3V9CnqK+hKQWGAowgYlnBMDYLktEUNTynM8EL kO3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531gE5dlaXibJ7KdtlYkWPuV4Z2ciVCPvuoo5dYfjqkEgthoXZFs Vr0gYA+FWMLhkJRCa5ojzJaHxnHBIpwDS+YqCXwDz2DJ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw/1quFzdoxV99/Z/fBrqWdgY5YPdi/vfyoSWAfRquyCU6ROVOFmhHmnhK/5OiiaTw8yY3Fi1RrLmeVZ5NFwJ0= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7997:0:b0:60c:5ac6:cdf3 with SMTP id h23-20020a9d7997000000b0060c5ac6cdf3mr4070309otm.17.1655294660486; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 05:04:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <165512630943.1470.17753618581265860679@minnie.tuhs.org> <8845BDF5A20243F3CD8C296C36066BB3.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <54cd67b2-78f3-4ad3-a3c0-d0b885e67970@home.arpa> <393a28d5-98d7-44f1-908d-e70d0e8790db@home.arpa> In-Reply-To: <393a28d5-98d7-44f1-908d-e70d0e8790db@home.arpa> From: Dan Cross Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Kj=C3=B6rling?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003cabdd05e17b5254" Message-ID-Hash: UPIJOPR35TJTPFSNMFE2CWKL5GQE43PE X-Message-ID-Hash: UPIJOPR35TJTPFSNMFE2CWKL5GQE43PE X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documentation for Unix 4.0 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000003cabdd05e17b5254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 1:57 AM Michael Kj=C3=B6rling w= rote: > On 15 Jun 2022 09:53 +0800, from stu@remphrey.net (Stuart Remphrey): > > Though I think Norman was drawing an analogy between A-records/hard lin= ks > > and CNAME/symlinks, then observing that prior to 4.2BSD in 1983 there > were > > no symlinks only hard links, ditto CNAMEs in RFC-882, also 1983. > > So if we're going back further, we shouldn't use them (it breaks down a > > little when considering A-records though, since we can't easily not use > > those!) > > By much that same line of reasoning, tuhs.org shouldn't have any MX > records either because the MX RRtype was introduced as recently as in > 1986 (Wikipedia puts it at RFCs 973 and 974 [1] but without wide use > until "in the early 1990s"). Let alone a web presence because HTTP and > HTML came along even later. :-) > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record#Historical_background This definitely feels like it extends the joke a tad too far. :-) - Dan C. --0000000000003cabdd05e17b5254 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 1:57 AM Michael Kj=C3=B6rling <michael@kjorling.se> wrote:
On 15 Jun 2022 09:53 +0800, from stu@remph= rey.net (Stuart Remphrey):
> Though I think Norman was drawing an analogy between A-records/hard li= nks
> and CNAME/symlinks, then observing that prior to 4.2BSD in 1983 there = were
> no symlinks only hard links, ditto CNAMEs in RFC-882, also 1983.
> So if we're going back further, we shouldn't use them (it brea= ks down a
> little when considering A-records though, since we can't easily no= t use
> those!)

By much that same line of reasoning, tuhs.org shouldn't have any M= X
records either because the MX RRtype was introduced as recently as in
1986 (Wikipedia puts it at RFCs 973 and 974 [1] but without wide use
until "in the early 1990s"). Let alone a web presence because HTT= P and
HTML came along even later. :-)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org= /wiki/MX_record#Historical_background

This definitely feels like it extends= the joke a tad too far. :-)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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