From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26647 invoked from network); 26 May 2022 17:13:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 May 2022 17:13:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C8E40CAF; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:13:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-x34.google.com (mail-oa1-x34.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::34]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFAC540CAA for ; Fri, 27 May 2022 03:13:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-x34.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-edeb6c3642so2941494fac.3 for ; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xeKIrphGqczAiaCTdirGCOKwBTvr0cOSrZQXhoend9Q=; b=FFwTbx13gQ6Db0sWXsuqh7jHR6eNQ/NyUvaNFa9L/vcocaTY7idiW7F26uaguMmFzM D++s3FJx8WS5FsemmTbylFCa9KZvDkmufWB+PRsAvBdZVrNiHQRaFIddDTi3ekatKsPv DItf+33+0npJQA0I3fQ+3Ue35m1IB+VzQ9gTV/iCyQQ9tIhdLOu0CaQoPgoH3Jy6LI4C 4xrEoSkSDifXftO3TBQeqqdj03Ra3XgQMuUjooElX4oM5YN6N8fD54Uoko7mC9ZX21ZX jxMOyeJad2bLNn6SCAN0HfD0GTAEIJpf742iaKLCDH6YsWUdce6ya21b3Ml7QXOrCpBI b2pA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xeKIrphGqczAiaCTdirGCOKwBTvr0cOSrZQXhoend9Q=; b=wzHgCzre8vLOTUeHvW03L11k2AT+qepD3Vy//X5hTTrzobN8ho0d8u9yobMFdIxD1l BYMeLrX20sSaGSR/rXpxo5JoxuIpleIYsc624QDKHl8jCRQSaFI5P1bahwF6SxSjchZu /AG6j9+E6OkL1bnJkKCQk/vqffS1KpPz8oeM5uEfkCOrx69WWHNBYfuOP/QKKozn2uY7 J+WvBwCfMkGSEe9Rft347rKzFVRUfsybTBr9B3SY6uyXdVhe/z4UNOnprFPUDk3n97J5 aBw/zY9WHu5iMsdX836Q2wsmXqI+YdUXrNCqqfba0cWK9dnsUoiN37OiLiZH4FRkytMt 5wYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532IBj0nWyXUTBnXkZ+HxZre8zzeLhXDX3MbjoEMjSe9B5bBALyh BJgDiyYZrZK6yk2/unM7D1xT0zQxHr1A918v4JQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyu6Ek75JXULJMA7RUhpwTJiFm7l23edn3Uxv2uKQ7mr5mSE73A+NCKIYoLN15nPoB+0z4DQ0dWNVHaXtzIsZE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:3111:b0:f2:9615:3b2e with SMTP id v17-20020a056870311100b000f296153b2emr1781700oaa.49.1653585227989; Thu, 26 May 2022 10:13:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202205242329.24ONT3wQ029514@freefriends.org> <0c8301d87123$52017190$f60454b0$@henare.com> In-Reply-To: <0c8301d87123$52017190$f60454b0$@henare.com> From: Dan Cross Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 13:13:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: Henry Mensch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001ee84105dfed503d" Message-ID-Hash: MZFUYTEXLWVSRQJOVSWUNCVZT76IAUIE X-Message-ID-Hash: MZFUYTEXLWVSRQJOVSWUNCVZT76IAUIE X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ACM opens up much of its archives List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000001ee84105dfed503d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 1:09 PM Henry Mensch wrote: > Unsure of your location, but it is likely that you can get your local > public (!) library to =E2=80=9CILL=E2=80=9D (interlibrary loan) items =E2= =80=A6 including journal > items =E2=80=A6 for you. It=E2=80=99s not instant access, but if you=E2= =80=99re retired then this > may be good enough. > > > > *>* even though I'm a long-time ACM (and IEEE) member. > > > > If you=E2=80=99re a **current** member of these societies then you should= have > good access to journal content. > I believe this is true for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay for a digital library membership _in addition to_ your standard membership. It's very annoying; IEEE is the one that really grinds my gears generally. > >FWIW: the single item that I am the proudest of when I was USENIX > President was opening access to its entire library to everyone - members = or > otherwise. > > > > I have used this in the past, so thank you for being way ahead of your > time. > +1. You have to ask for some of the older stuff explicitly (it hasn't been scanned yet or similar) but it's nice to be able to get access to USENIX materials. - Dan C. --0000000000001ee84105dfed503d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 1:09 PM Henry Men= sch <henry@henare.com> wrote:=

Uns= ure of your location, but it is likely that you can get your local public (= !) library to =E2=80=9CILL=E2=80=9D (interlibrary loan) items =E2=80=A6 inc= luding journal items =E2=80=A6 for you. It=E2=80=99s not instant access, bu= t if you=E2=80=99re retired then this may be good enough.

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> even though I= 'm a long-time ACM (and IEEE) member.=C2=A0

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If you=E2=80=99re a *current* member of these societies then = you should have good access to journal content.

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I believe this is tr= ue for ACM, but for IEEE not so much. You have to pay for a digital library= membership _in addition to_ your standard=C2=A0membership. It's very a= nnoying; IEEE is the one that really grinds my gears generally.
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= >FWIW: the single item that I am the proudest of when I was USENIX Presi= dent was opening=C2=A0access to its entire library to=C2=A0everyone - membe= rs or otherwise.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

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I have used = this in the past, so thank you for being way ahead of your time.

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+1. You have to ask for some of the o= lder stuff explicitly (it hasn't been scanned yet or similar) but it= 9;s nice to be able to get access to USENIX materials.

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