From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18615 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2021 21:18:32 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Apr 2021 21:18:32 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B31889CAD9; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:18:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AFA9C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:18:02 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="OFF8jy6V"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C5F0A9C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:18:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f44.google.com (mail-ot1-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B8B9C83D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:18:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id w31-20020a9d36220000b02901f2cbfc9743so12619913otb.7 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KKJFH7D+qnQDTxiFhgdwf6Dr/HC8c/6yGrlInOR0dUk=; b=OFF8jy6VvanNK7dRnp3VAUnDVqDiS0LHJVDtWuzVNmT3JCIGloTeCuLMo4HBw4/FQQ xfNa6eNjzZ0hDj2xO4QgGZs1/fSdmIBaA/PY0MTY2FGq9Y6YPDOsBmo8fm5NNjY6Vv1U is9EGyBskSbVKcbZZYHQzwSBfieJCu1nRMbULqE2fjZ6f761mw3yviRZa/KQlDyBJGYp 6BKrWmivN/M1AIELNQCu/xvOKfBexNC/IgvJE2QmRXJc7Mkc2YiXtJHL9j/wP7PQFA2p kzP8WPAguBx0YATkfXHeYVBdTZo2dtBDRBBZZnUZH7SQUKyDOk4iAokDsDI97dK1SKV3 VLZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KKJFH7D+qnQDTxiFhgdwf6Dr/HC8c/6yGrlInOR0dUk=; b=pLhJ3Yg9ElKm28hN2SchhpJoakWlWJacDEdJ1UHt0d2YkR7cu+U1Cil7EMP3wDoPGp M/FYtlpngL5t7gBgMAn+gPJPE3r/zJLHUVKITMFF+NRAh3/kaxMsMu6YN1NuYuvCegSj 6GP6XUv633TD1Bc6w1mu67+0dmrK3fS4wxsNRwXvbajY+cd8BqSi95auWIm4R1dIBMEa BJ0B2ytklHp0MNiV8kDK+gwEJWEviSXr4NnobYmTfdP13KJ26e0c4WmDaFxPHz85DvAc XCaxvDFVw81N0cMJxCkBOz5ELfIXVQ5g1hFtvuBYcrpLRQ3OeHU+loh8PKUcJ5g5zFrK 60UQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530gfbM4Xwo5XrCqJcQMrkW+NpjPd0AV9KqElUG4uahPzT+KF9c2 dHkTlMiMebgLXBni8UJMYNEIXPa6H+VI7sjKUwsVdsxm X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyggzJBzAwKGQffpOPZt3CpwAyDxy8IyPtghAvvs/aD/1aQGjASquasbvEvX2P3X9fehsHLbmutTsO+Pd26Uko= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3435:: with SMTP id v50mr24103505otb.65.1617657480274; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210404052939.xivuinlcugqb5zde@localhost.localdomain> <19643.1617646039@hop.toad.com> <20210405203954.GP28660@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Theodore Ts'o" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ae73305bf403bea" Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000007ae73305bf403bea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:14 PM Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 01:39:54PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Whoever was running Usenix contacted me after seeing the success of > > Linux Expo and begged me to bring those people to Usenix. I was offered > > a board seat, I could be reviewer for life, anything I wanted. > > > > All I asked for was blind reviews. Didn't ask anything for myself, just > > blind reviews so you could be a nobody and get judged on the quaility of > > your work rather than your name. > > FAST reviews are blind. ATC conferences are (as of the last time I > was on an ATC PC a year or two ago) are still not blinded. > Ok, I'll bite: why not? That seems like a no-brainer way to weed out a lot of bias. - Dan C. --0000000000007ae73305bf403bea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:14 PM Theodore T= s'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 01:39:54PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Whoever was running Usenix contacted me after seeing the success of > Linux Expo and begged me to bring those people to Usenix.=C2=A0 I was = offered
> a board seat, I could be reviewer for life, anything I wanted.
>
> All I asked for was blind reviews.=C2=A0 Didn't ask anything for m= yself, just
> blind reviews so you could be a nobody and get judged on the quaility = of
> your work rather than your name.

FAST reviews are blind.=C2=A0 ATC conferences are (as of the last time I was on an ATC PC a year or two ago) are still not blinded.
=

Ok, I'll bite: why not? That seems like a no-braine= r way to weed out a lot of bias.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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