From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3254 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2021 23:45:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Jun 2021 23:45:38 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E8919C9DB; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:45:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CA29C8E8; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:45:06 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="bXTrVgNk"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AE7E69C8E8; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:45:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oo1-f45.google.com (mail-oo1-f45.google.com [209.85.161.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6C0D9C8E7 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:45:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oo1-f45.google.com with SMTP id z14-20020a4a984e0000b029024a8c622149so215750ooi.10 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mDsEZsysE3xzH11LHf5cluUzrDOqWeU9Fafn3OSof+A=; b=bXTrVgNkFTC9vfW7oi4kZSn9Pa4zegUobxIZLaQ+zNELHJM43bVnodG1HgVktuQ/Gg JsVTl+MqBr9Lcp/ZyU/WnUz/J/bsB5ioznP8+zgsvApRjcBJ3vU/V2jgqLIYDnA1MBzR yVW9jJ1eYvIDnFMxQteW+N40QA3LbsJlsXLXgYgx/8R8BuJ7D6XPGfFRljNeCpjTqav0 u6dttmEZwaCNui616PIrtSpGN78sspjGZRbOrYG+saN+KbqTCAWQMltdTbmuZQpb6d2r fXkVwNZgrG0IXNna4fzWLThdjsXLnFRTcHd3L2TyrCBA2HarU1xwxEEl2ClValY18WLu vpgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mDsEZsysE3xzH11LHf5cluUzrDOqWeU9Fafn3OSof+A=; b=Zy71fnSpdaGuzqDzuCcTXqZP9QjFt9VtrypmX6lhovXibdKlNCZEF7HdVJ5Cc7ez9H E/6Q3c73yJ8eWan5E5LoVmDIKcnOSsuJE82nfA2dkLWSChHJK2O8BrHVAjoKrLKJ2esZ U52VH//0YpUF1lOkJ56YQZorP8iPSPM2HWn1S+eCrSekOPHRhxrHVxcukd2N+1RLqtCR 0X0V708VvekAOLKB4kgJUgOzrD+fWGccZJPsOQfwl/1kLmbfpPHf6eE09Pm458so57KW NPkYWgQl/2EOV5An3L1J1OOytK8cqIzizHovr6x2TKj/GdG382tN3o9w4IrTS8sKsdfE 2BCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5302rlCdz1IsCvjp3YJ6XiDsAOXPko5fEmUFa/3q+jxVm8uz4qgb SQpDH3lX5rq+yLDw3jr115ljrBuxyEJYRsOiAYA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxjs+XScYfmho0aGoL2PfvKsIokB553W9AQkyarG7tcZWc+3vVTbd9YG5Jnwt2WmRb+Q5zGk5ThmCFEJhtjuW0= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:3b45:: with SMTP id s66mr1322493oos.55.1623800701162; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210615221659.ltbL6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 19:44:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: John Cowan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fa980505c4d68f43" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 70th anniversary of (official) programming errors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000fa980505c4d68f43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM John Cowan wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:25 PM Steffen Nurpmeso > wrote: > >> As not being hard-to-the-core i may have missed it, but also in >> 1951, in March, the wonderful Grace Hopper "conceives the first >> compiler, called A-O and later released as Math-Matic. Hopper is >> also credited with coining the term 'bug' following an incident >> involving a moth and a Mark II. >> > > Yes, but wrongly. The label next to the moth is "First actual case of bug > being found", and the word "actual" shows that the slang term already > existed then. Brief unexplained faults on telephony (and before that > telegraphy) lines were "bugs on the line" back in the 19C. Vibroplex > telegraph keys, first sold in 1905, had a picture of a beetle on the top of > the key, and were notorious for creating bugs when inexperienced operators > used them. (Vibroplex is still in business, still selling its > continuous-operation telegraph keys, which ditt as long as you hold the > paddle to the right.) > Indeed, the Vibroplex key is called a "bug". I suspect this has something to do with its appearance more than anything else, though (it kinda sorta looks like, er, a bug). - Dan C. --000000000000fa980505c4d68f43 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM John Cowa= n <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:25 PM Steff= en Nurpmeso <steffe= n@sdaoden.eu> wrote:
As not being hard-to-the-core i may have missed it, but also in
1951, in March, the wonderful Grace Hopper "conceives the first
compiler, called A-O and later released as Math-Matic.=C2=A0 Hopper is
also credited with coining the term 'bug' following an incident
involving a moth and a Mark II.

Yes, but= wrongly.=C2=A0 The label next to the moth is "First actual case of bu= g being found", and the word "actual" shows that the slang t= erm already existed then.=C2=A0 Brief unexplained faults on telephony (and = before that telegraphy) lines were "bugs on the line" back in the= 19C.=C2=A0 Vibroplex telegraph keys, first sold in 1905, had a picture of = a beetle on the top of the key, and were notorious for creating bugs when i= nexperienced operators used them.=C2=A0 (Vibroplex is still in business, st= ill selling=C2=A0its continuous-operation telegraph keys, which ditt as lon= g as you hold the paddle to the right.)
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Indeed, the Vibroplex key is called a "bug". I sus= pect this has something to do with its appearance more than anything else, = though (it kinda sorta looks like, er, a bug).

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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