From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9ea23d49 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E0D79C216; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:29:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54569C200; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:28:55 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="n2eqqE0d"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8B4E59C200; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:28:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f51.google.com (mail-qv1-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C98A09C1FF for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:28:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f51.google.com with SMTP id t6so2230616qvs.5 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:28:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mOJvAlpjZkX9H9S4+2cUSsva/ObKRD18Quy6MZYuWuQ=; b=n2eqqE0dzKn9t/TmvYB7rkRpuia7yRcTomkY4o6XPSiP0t7LBWv2e2z/oLpVKN1AIG n6cStkX06PqLoAtt9TA3+FcI1rDkQ4W503odf3eDKOdd2gPDdBXzyUG/rADfhZx+bnsO cDy7WUI1SB6JxfKbg15KnGVKJHY4exaXXUUFdVRolVjxeei6yMssh1EgpvboqIy9e5RY rxHIHV1UYvqHsy8Lc33hxqaLdDQwdyyctWFE7IKMFvOP5zYg4VbNqL6dzZ/YvPkLhcAU wBP8y+Lk71VZzPP2P4nEso/8+3cWsbNVFB6FYllQ+RXrTlSKZ8WzsqKzExczY74H4uGx dPRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mOJvAlpjZkX9H9S4+2cUSsva/ObKRD18Quy6MZYuWuQ=; b=UbYYOlNjBTYGUGCqWi55aLkHBQVT7RkThirFKzWaH23QwIevhRxvNqjjdFqPGFeBFQ NS1eDRTbWT4gWtFT4loSJ+h1P+iQeTAeG/WnVk74x600UV5xpcqv2J/Vl1cDEo+Yz2GA USNl/k/wxYKqDazuIKbvr3tKvC7FtRvIPQrffdXaGYbOlsut9qopF6FE8SKAxPIyTeFZ M0QlYC8hzVeFj4IaKQiTeu1Wy8Kdq52Ri5Ci/liFvx0pytMzjTLEVu3hII9nQudq2lWR QCpV/LNo/IsBbyopWpC3WcOTTvmSlrZJXfMYTxECvDT+F1MlH9W90pB6wA34iNSH8QqR ygWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXHJ+bFv6CyuQsooxP1RelQmdG2ZVB25kaRkv9AnNyyWbLWyVco n1ie4+Y5HmqThaVQUlpT8jQ6ZxwgDIseCbj8FhXLFfPC X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyq/FTOFS00MminCnFUUjoH5lC8hW1iipgx+ojLvI4I8ieaVFx/aiQ2E1OmF7Z5fWQMVAO/JGcr5+9msN1EHiw= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:fac1:: with SMTP id p1mr7133822qvo.231.1579642132021; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:28:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46acce0f-9ce2-958b-9c12-c6d9c7f737d9@nomadlogic.org> In-Reply-To: <46acce0f-9ce2-958b-9c12-c6d9c7f737d9@nomadlogic.org> From: Dan Cross Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:28:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: Pete Wright Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000026c47d059cad18f7" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Apollo Domain/OS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000026c47d059cad18f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To my knowledge, there was never a link between Plan 9 and Domain/OS. As I understood it, Domain/OS was more influenced by Multics and maybe the Pr1me machines than anything else. Plan 9 came from the Unix heritage (and thus had Multics as a grandparent, in a manner of speaking). If there was any connection at all, I suspect it was tenuous and more in the form of an indirect influence, such as an idea someone got from a paper or something like that. - Dan C. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:11 PM Pete Wright wrote: > Apologies that this isn't specifically a Unix specific question but I > was wondering if anyone had insight in running domain/OS and it's > relationship to Plan 9 (assuming there is any). > > One of my early mentors was a former product person at Apollo in Mass. > and was nice enough to tell me all sorts of war stories working there. > I had known about Plan9 at the time, and from what he described to me > about domain/OS it sounded like there was lots of overlap between the > two from a high level design perspective at the least. I've always been > keen to understand if domain/OS grew out of former Bell Labs folks, or > how it got started. > > As an aside, he gifted me a whole bunch of marketing collateral from > Apollo (from before the HQ acquisition) that i'd be happy to share if > there is any historical value in that. At the time I was a > video/special effects engineer are was amazed at how beneficial having > something like domain/OS or Plan9 would have been for us, it felt we > were basically trying to accomplish a lot of the same goals by duct > taping a bunch of Irix and Linux systems together. > > Cheers, > -pete > > -- > Pete Wright > pete@nomadlogic.org > @nomadlogicLA > > --00000000000026c47d059cad18f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To my knowledge, there was never a link between Plan 9 and= Domain/OS.

As I understood it, Domain/OS was more influ= enced by Multics and maybe the Pr1me machines than anything else. Plan 9 ca= me from the Unix heritage (and thus had Multics as a grandparent, in a mann= er of speaking).

If there was any connection at al= l, I suspect it was tenuous and more in the form of an indirect influence, = such as an idea someone got from a paper or something=C2=A0like that.
=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:11 PM Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> wrote:
Apologies that this isn't specifically= a Unix specific question but I
was wondering if anyone had insight in running domain/OS and it's
relationship to Plan 9 (assuming there is any).

One of my early mentors was a former product person at Apollo in Mass.
and was nice enough to tell me all sorts of war stories working there.=C2= =A0
I had known about Plan9 at the time, and from what he described to me
about domain/OS it sounded like there was lots of overlap between the
two from a high level design perspective at the least.=C2=A0 I've alway= s been
keen to understand if domain/OS grew out of former Bell Labs folks, or
how it got started.

As an aside, he gifted me a whole bunch of marketing collateral from
Apollo (from before the HQ acquisition) that i'd be happy to share if <= br> there is any historical value in that.=C2=A0 At the time I was a
video/special effects engineer are was amazed at how beneficial having
something like domain/OS or Plan9 would have been for us, it felt we
were basically trying to accomplish a lot of the same goals by duct
taping a bunch of Irix and Linux systems together.

Cheers,
-pete

--
Pete Wright
pete@nomadlogic.or= g
@nomadlogicLA

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