From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9c426f8e for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0137194EB8; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:56:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A159F94925; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:55:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="M3iqYcyy"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CCE5894926; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:55:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f176.google.com (mail-qk1-f176.google.com [209.85.222.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA15694925 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:55:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id a71so3638168qkg.2 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:55:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UCY7kn/UefP4PjJwAB/1vA0AYp/QRaqeP2G3j+YCj38=; b=M3iqYcyyDQoWnCFHcEDN4jlpaJDDE/4QZWwB1GT35uKI/Dgzh/FWAk4EfzwA3xRZwl VHWJXbSjlzPYe+V9KrC1Y8HM3a0mAtbfqWurzUX32m/UnHOSAw8RRIttPTBXR+nntIQv +4wjpGQFHk33LoVuaDWlzH24eEs36t5frgl1BCS/v+weZiJ/5+sXpRPue3AuF/AF6VYU dzgs02UGLF1jSUGnfGjpLJA2daFhCNHh2wcxXMZpkkz3BccH3gto1IpVx2dn/7gyWJXm 07LsFeg9xt5H5u0L87t2vQZ8vt++zT/AV+e5Afk7f23/HhwApJqO3NA24UgBN92nZpor 6vVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UCY7kn/UefP4PjJwAB/1vA0AYp/QRaqeP2G3j+YCj38=; b=Ld3elXvrOr/SetRJOPXvP3Wr/9I98W/AeIkZ23PA/mkNxokzkqPRfbFgGeDdAgyw3B dFLveZ7jl+XlAi9TXZ5VNyryKk5B1HF1ZOdebNRtyuqCjJEuD4tWdIXkOSJ4poed/zmf OJa+L0RPuPNGrqSvwLb0WGv2mRwwAOnny13zv1F8wReNznSaUCYPyj3NXdJY+wBnAXXJ pXERGKt3mDwueiAeINjVIru4z4M535/UFiT2I+x7YpOo07RJc3BOK4oInd4w6BEFrnig TBaf8LKv7gitTEatjlixo3vxHQ6M5w/xNS2GgKtt0JggVnCgQw0lLcxkQ0A1pa5aDYs3 cTDw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW2uBY3zkCn9PaaECEbkiKwsBp936iEQCiYF8bnwTI6/+XHvQLN sN3BEveEXjyWvSPk5zdx70cSWwrssThK4hgdNes= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxicdTzXyHjaRo1hkGDG6omKv3n73kygruyLtUyLkGjPJ8ZcGqnSMZGxJ70Wr3TKgklvB9YjMP8Q8Js2uWXyKk= X-Received: by 2002:a37:aa11:: with SMTP id t17mr39222912qke.193.1554994532929; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:55:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <14453.1554920068@cesium.clock.org> <57C2E8D6-148C-487E-A6AE-B6E0E6EC337C@bitblocks.com> <7b575d14-270c-1d3a-7419-0329ffb42669@esse.ch> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c355d405864260af" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Paper discussing Unix boot process? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c355d405864260af Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:49 AM Clem Cole wrote: > As my very fragile nth edition photocopy shows, the original Western > Electric copies are not troff'ed and run through a typesetter because John > (like most of us at the time) did not have access to one (and Tom Ferrin > had not yet done the vcat(1) hack at UCSF). Lions used standard nroff > output - (in this case, originally to 132 column line printer paper I > believe). > Indeed. Even the mid-90's Peer-to-Peer press reprinting appears to be, roughly, a facsimile of line printer output. I say 'roughly' because there is some prefatory material at the beginning that is properly typeset: dedications, acknowledgements, etc, all written at the time of (re)publication and similarly a set of "appreciations" at the end. Interestingly, the title page appears to be approximately original and is typeset. It also includes this little gem of a note: "COPY NO. 050B NAME PROPERTY OF BELL LABORATORIES, INC. COPY TO BE RETURNED TO: COMPUTING INFORMATION SERVICE MH 2F-128 UNIX OPERATING SYSTEM SOURCE CODE VERSION 6" (line breaks elided). I don't think I've ever seen a copy of the original; I suspect the title page was reset for the PP publication, though it is of course possible that Lions could have prepared that specially: doing a "one-off" for a single page, perhaps under contract with an actual publishing company or graphic artist or something, would have been reasonable while the rest of the booklet contents were taken from listings. > [snip] > > - Dan C. --000000000000c355d405864260af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:49 AM Clem Cole= <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
A= s my very fragile nth edition photocopy shows, the original Western Electri= c copies are not troff'ed=C2=A0and run through a typesetter because Joh= n (like most of us at the time) did not have access to one (and Tom Ferrin = had not yet done the vcat(1) hack at UCSF).=C2=A0 Lions used standard nroff= output - (in this case, originally to 132 column line printer paper I beli= eve).=C2=A0

Indeed. Even the mi= d-90's Peer-to-Peer press reprinting appears to be, roughly, a facsimil= e of line printer output. I say 'roughly' because there is some pre= fatory material at the beginning that is properly typeset: dedications, ack= nowledgements, etc, all written at the time of (re)publication and similarl= y a set of "appreciations" at the end.

I= nterestingly, the title page appears to be approximately original and is ty= peset. It also includes this little gem of a note: "COPY NO. 050B=C2= =A0 NAME PROPERTY OF BELL LABORATORIES, INC. COPY TO BE RETURNED TO: COMPUT= ING INFORMATION SERVICE MH 2F-128 UNIX OPERATING SYSTEM SOURCE CODE VERSION= 6" (line breaks elided).

I don't think I= 've ever seen a copy of the original; I suspect the title page was rese= t for the PP publication, though it is of course possible that Lions could = have prepared that specially: doing a "one-off" for a single page= , perhaps under contract with an actual publishing company or graphic artis= t or something, would have been reasonable while the rest of the booklet co= ntents were taken from listings.
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