From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10963 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2022 21:04:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Jan 2022 21:04:58 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 503669C6B2; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:04:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11F69C0CA; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:04:45 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="PwRUxXsk"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B7AFB9C0CA; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:04:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39F409C0BE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 07:04:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id w200so5059676oiw.3 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:04:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wXsoWFPL6i+qLxLCn4wMBviaWnFwsg1KUgggnh2Aabk=; b=PwRUxXskudb8mg4n9gqK3655Wr2bXbPXppJYoYVMQmDsE2sWRKsiI6wWU1Mi0mPL7s hUxVaEpy6zfi976PLsiPeZmEl8b/1HdoiI5t+UFfOnSEvrJCVuwFfba8nEGuTfmpasEg /6jfSoYKXfRnRsAA8xtYB0Pa9SzE+k6L1P4qTwgACQJDabXoSQVZqBLV1KHuotH9mD8O sJB1IXHTJr/iPi3ffERDydwQapZ8XlDa6zyoqEtbAV0ZWoFHViMujGV7DmNYtBaOSHdG 0UhoYx3fEOUA5LPNSHJ0dsXlL+JgPVd47zyWSK32U8wzp1kc3cZ1q287ngqKMrzQ0ebw mxqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wXsoWFPL6i+qLxLCn4wMBviaWnFwsg1KUgggnh2Aabk=; b=DOH2qYJEY5rmlxoaouDD6rthH9LwUT2C/m+/m8Fy5ryuag/tdPjYRKKzPgGoqbLJ1n FxCIxKugMrcVssZsGFhRaQRZThOuXSLCIoSJgX1uwpWCSD0d6rz5WoB5BNfXJscZTb06 GwUMXmPnsK3v8WFkMeUrBOnm32tIQz6YIwDMSgP/DMm43OSGmGWrPmXVwInNALVXX2gE WlODR1UwaEIosxdcVljQISse3aUFuEJcM98OwzWOrsx71OmE3+SnZ7XPY17FbbYfI+c1 qY5WnD1yeFBezmwuKoYtDb9+jlA9rSqN878DRQsScvgmWU/NA8Sdx49TYhmEtiibf3Qy zLeA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533YPZd3KDo5aGpBokfBdhRQrQBNOU72m132b3Tk6AFAbwLkAb1B Y7D12iDJhJSDaxmw0pqI4iwnwqsoE8UY6Dl9hGcEK18U X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmGsuPbiZtG+aO4UaQYMyjIYCTiAGjjOW7ynrobbKuAh2DlFIVJGOsZIsWihyqK57GW9CB1/KC/1lgUCvp41I= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:643:: with SMTP id z3mr915346oih.110.1641848683503; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:04:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220110203300.GY3441@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: To: Richard Salz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008e240805d540af8f" Subject: Re: [TUHS] TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Douglas McIlroy Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000008e240805d540af8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:37 PM Richard Salz wrote: > > It's a double edged sword. TeX looks better but you instantly know it is >> TeX, it has a particular look. Troff looks just fine to me, and you don't >> know it is Troff, Word, or what. >> > > Oh, does *roff support Comic Sans now? > This is interesting; I've always felt like I could pick out troff pretty readily; I agree that TeX has a certain "look" to it (at least by default), but I always felt the same about troff as well. Less flippantly, I know it's TeX is probably mostly about the fonts. > Agreed, I suspect the same is true of my subjective interpretation of troff as well. Well, with TeX, it's the fonts and the math. - Dan C. --0000000000008e240805d540af8f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:37 PM Richard S= alz <rich.salz@gmail.com> = wrote:

It's a double edged sword.=C2=A0 TeX looks better but you instantly kno= w it is
TeX, it has a particular look.=C2=A0 Troff looks just fine to me, and you d= on't
know it is Troff, Word, or what.

Oh, do= es *roff support Comic Sans now?

This is interesting; I've always felt like I could pick out tro= ff pretty readily; I agree that TeX has a certain "look" to it (a= t least by default), but I always=C2=A0felt the same about troff as well.

Less flippantly, I know it's= TeX is probably mostly about the fonts.
=

Agreed, I suspect the same is true of my subjective int= erpretation of troff as well. Well, with TeX, it's the fonts and the ma= th.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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